[tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

Mirimir mirimir at riseup.net
Sun May 1 06:14:12 UTC 2016


On 04/30/2016 05:20 PM, Moritz Bartl wrote:
> On 04/30/2016 08:15 PM, dan wrote:
>>     Sorry to hear that. We're already in contact, but just for the record: I
>>     think there's the fast option here, you unlock it and let them search
>>     it, or,
>> Kind of surprised that you are suggesting to give a way the encryption
>> passphrase.

<SNIP>

> Maybe it is simply too crazy for many jurisdictions to believe, but
> police in Germany in most cases actually treats you well and is not
> your enemy. There's no point in turning every occasion into a combat
> just for the sake of it.

Maybe it seems that way. But how can one be sure of that?

> I've spoken to spriver, and it looks like they will be satisfied if
> spriver unlocks the laptop and shows them that the files cannot be
> found in a filename search conducted by himself. If spriver is
> comfortable doing that, and the objective here is to get the laptop
> back quickly, it is not for me to decide and condemn that choice.
> Actually, I think it is fairly reasonable.

If there are backups, or no important data on the laptop, I don't see
much point in getting the laptop back. It can't be trusted.

> But, yes, as with any person that has a computer, I recommend
> up-to-date offsite backups. Then, you might lean towards the other
> reasonable option, which is to simply state the facts and demand the
> hardware back. There's so many things that can happen with your
> machines, especially when it's a laptop, there is no reason not to
> have good backups.

That's always good advice. But again, hardware returned by police is
good at best for selling on Ebay, CL, etc. Or target practice ;)



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