[tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

Virgil Griffith i at virgil.gr
Sun May 1 02:30:00 UTC 2016


Moritz; always the voice of reason.

MATVOR.

-V

On Sunday, 1 May 2016, Moritz Bartl <moritz at torservers.net> wrote:

> On 04/30/2016 08:15 PM, dan wrote:
> >     Sorry to hear that. We're already in contact, but just for the
> record: I
> >     think there's the fast option here, you unlock it and let them search
> >     it, or,
> > Kind of surprised that you are suggesting to give a way the encryption
> > passphrase.
>
> No, I did not. I merely outlined the options. Do not confuse listing
> options with suggestions, and do not confuse suggestions with what
> people would do personally themselves.
>
> Also, there's a clear difference between unlocking it and demonstrating
> that the files are not on that computer without letting them touch it,
> unlocking it and let them search it while you're present, unlocking it
> and let them take a copy of all the data, or giving out the passphrase.
> Those are all distinct things.
>
> Maybe it is simply too crazy for many jurisdictions to believe, but
> police in Germany in most cases actually treats you well and is not your
> enemy. There's no point in turning every occasion into a combat just for
> the sake of it. I've spoken to spriver, and it looks like they will be
> satisfied if spriver unlocks the laptop and shows them that the files
> cannot be found in a filename search conducted by himself. If spriver is
> comfortable doing that, and the objective here is to get the laptop back
> quickly, it is not for me to decide and condemn that choice. Actually, I
> think it is fairly reasonable.
>
> But, yes, as with any person that has a computer, I recommend up-to-date
> offsite backups. Then, you might lean towards the other reasonable
> option, which is to simply state the facts and demand the hardware back.
> There's so many things that can happen with your machines, especially
> when it's a laptop, there is no reason not to have good backups.
>
> --
> Moritz Bartl
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