[tor-relays] Netflix overblocking non-exit Tor relays

René Ladan r.c.ladan at gmail.com
Tue Mar 1 07:57:31 UTC 2016


2016-03-01 7:53 GMT+01:00 Jonas Bergler <jonas at bergler.name>:
> I had an update from Neil Hunt @ Netflix
>
>> I'm told that we pushed a fix this weekend that should have solved the
>> problem - lmk
>
>
> Things are working again at my end - can anyone else confirm?
>
It has always worked for me, using a non-VPS Dutch subscription with this relay:
https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/4E8CE6F5651E7342C1E7E5ED031E82078134FB0D

René
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Jonas Bergler <jonas at bergler.name> wrote:
>>
>> Yesterday I forwarded this thread to Neil Hunt - the Chief Product Officer
>> at Netflix with the hope that he would read it and have received the
>> following reply a few hours ago.
>>
>>> Noted - this will go to the right technical people.
>>
>>
>> I'm hoping this is a sign Netflix will take this seriously.
>>
>> -- Jonas
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 12:20 PM, <tor_manager at autistici.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> apparently this is happening with a lot of relays node (My italian relay
>>> node was blocked too)
>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/netflix/comments/472kqu/netflix_started_blocking_tor_relayonly_nodes/
>>> As Roger said we have to try to identify someone inside Netflix to pitch
>>> "our cause", on the other hand, it will probably be really useful to try to
>>> step up also in public (social/PR), for example asking to EFF to support
>>> this.
>>>
>>> We are struggling convincing people to open nodes, we really have to
>>> protect them, we will see a decrease number of nodes
>>>
>>> Aidoru
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2016-02-26 23:58, Roger Dingledine wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 12:42:38AM +0100, Gero Kuehn wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  They did however not
>>>>> leave the impression that they a) care or b) intend to fix this at some
>>>>> point by parsing the Tor network information properly instead of using
>>>>> whatever cheap&wrong hack they use now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is actually a service that they can use to do this parsing
>>>> for them:
>>>> https://check.torproject.org/cgi-bin/TorBulkExitList.py
>>>> e.g.
>>>>
>>>> https://check.torproject.org/cgi-bin/TorBulkExitList.py?ip=128.31.0.34&port=443
>>>>
>>>> Now, I bet Netflix has more than one IP address. It would not be hard
>>>> to adapt this service to help them do what they should be wanting to do.
>>>>
>>>> See https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse#Bans for more details.
>>>>
>>>> One of our next steps might be to find a useful technical contact
>>>> inside Netflix, so they can start doing this advocacy and education from
>>>> the inside.
>>>>
>>>> --Roger
>>>
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