[tor-relays] Netflix overblocking non-exit Tor relays

Jonas Bergler jonas at bergler.name
Tue Mar 1 06:53:42 UTC 2016


I had an update from Neil Hunt @ Netflix

I'm told that we pushed a fix this weekend that should have solved the
> problem - lmk


Things are working again at my end - can anyone else confirm?

-- Jonas

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Jonas Bergler <jonas at bergler.name> wrote:

> Yesterday I forwarded this thread to Neil Hunt - the Chief Product Officer
> at Netflix with the hope that he would read it and have received the
> following reply a few hours ago.
>
> Noted - this will go to the right technical people.
>>
>
> I'm hoping this is a sign Netflix will take this seriously.
>
> -- Jonas
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 12:20 PM, <tor_manager at autistici.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> apparently this is happening with a lot of relays node (My italian relay
>> node was blocked too)
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/netflix/comments/472kqu/netflix_started_blocking_tor_relayonly_nodes/
>> As Roger said we have to try to identify someone inside Netflix to pitch
>> "our cause", on the other hand, it will probably be really useful to try to
>> step up also in public (social/PR), for example asking to EFF to support
>> this.
>>
>> We are struggling convincing people to open nodes, we really have to
>> protect them, we will see a decrease number of nodes
>>
>> Aidoru
>>
>>
>> On 2016-02-26 23:58, Roger Dingledine wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 12:42:38AM +0100, Gero Kuehn wrote:
>>>
>>>>  They did however not
>>>> leave the impression that they a) care or b) intend to fix this at some
>>>> point by parsing the Tor network information properly instead of using
>>>> whatever cheap&wrong hack they use now.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is actually a service that they can use to do this parsing
>>> for them:
>>> https://check.torproject.org/cgi-bin/TorBulkExitList.py
>>> e.g.
>>>
>>> https://check.torproject.org/cgi-bin/TorBulkExitList.py?ip=128.31.0.34&port=443
>>>
>>> Now, I bet Netflix has more than one IP address. It would not be hard
>>> to adapt this service to help them do what they should be wanting to do.
>>>
>>> See https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse#Bans for more details.
>>>
>>> One of our next steps might be to find a useful technical contact
>>> inside Netflix, so they can start doing this advocacy and education from
>>> the inside.
>>>
>>> --Roger
>>>
>>
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