[tor-relays] Suggestion to make Tor usage more disguised

Elrippo elrippo at elrippoisland.net
Sat Jan 16 14:20:30 UTC 2016


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Well, you are forgetting that all TOR relays are using an IP, and these IP's are stored in a public list.
So you do not have to check your logs as a network admin, you just have to download the list every 24H and wright and a simple script (and make use of iptables on a Unix Server) to deny the initiative connection to a TOR entry node, simple as that.
It is more an attitude of the network setup and corporate understanding towards TOR.

Best regards,
elrippo

Am 16. Jänner 2016 15:02:18 MEZ, schrieb "Raúl Martínez" <rme at rme.li>:
>Most of people are uneducated about what is Tor and what is used for.
>That
>can lead to trouble.
>
>I have used pluggable transports but they are too slow (50KB/s)
>
>2016-01-16 15:00 GMT+01:00 David Stainton <dstainton415 at gmail.com>:
>
>> Why would someone get into trouble for using Tor?
>> Furthermore, have you have heard of pluggable transports for Tor?
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Raúl Martínez <rme at rme.li> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > I am writing this message to make a simple suggestion that could
>help
>> > driving more adoption to Tor by making using tor less obvious for a
>> network
>> > administrator.
>> >
>> > This suggestion tries to address the user case of a common Tor
>usage, in
>> > which the user is not being attacked nor mitm, he is just using tor
>in
>> his
>> > work for example.
>> >
>> > The network admin of the office is not searching actively for Tor
>users
>> in
>> > his network but one day he log-in in the router panel and he sees
>this:
>> >
>> > - Current conexions -
>> >
>> > WORKSTATION-98
>> > 38.29.00.2 [torproxy10.teaxxcu.com]
>> >
>> > Is obvious that is using tor. The network admin was not looking for
>Tor
>> > usage in his network but it saw this without looking for it. Now
>this
>> worker
>> > can be in serious trouble for using Tor.
>> >
>> > So my suggestion is to set-up a custom hostname an a Tor-explaining
>html
>> > index ONLY in TOR EXIT nodes. They are the only nodes that can get
>in
>> > trouble and its helpful to advertise that they are tor nodes.
>> >
>> > ENTRY GUARD nodes should not advertise neither in the hostname nor
>in a
>> > HTML-index-page that they are Tor nodes. This way the network admin
>would
>> > only see an IP and a common hostname, that is a normal behaviour
>for a
>> HTTPS
>> > request.
>> >
>> > So, having said that I encourage all Entry-Guard owners to unset
>his
>> > hostname and to disable the HTML-index-page. That could help a lot
>of Tor
>> > users to not draw unwanted attention.
>> >
>> >
>> > Obviously a network-admin can get a list of Tor relays and check if
>you
>> are
>> > connecting to one of them but most of network-admins just take a
>look at
>> his
>> > router info page without further investigation.
>> >
>> > Thanks for your time.
>> >
>> >
>> > TL;DR: I encourage all Entry-Guard owners to unset his hostname and
>to
>> > disable the HTML-index-page.
>> >
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