[tor-relays] Is there a reason for all exit nodes being public?

Duncan Guthrie dguthrie at posteo.net
Thu Dec 8 08:22:55 UTC 2016


Well, apart from using Facebook...

On 8 December 2016 7:51:09 am GMT+00:00, Dave Warren <davew at hireahit.com> wrote:
>I agree 100%. And yet, it's still useful for those who don't have
>anything to fear from using Tor, but still want the privacy and
>security
>from the last mile.
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>On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, at 23:45, Duncan Guthrie wrote:
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>> The problem with Facebook is that their policies on real names
>> somewhat goes against hiding from a repressive regime. Their terms
>and
>> conditions mandate that they kick people who use pseudonyms, and make
>> fellow Facebook users rat on each other.
>>  If I was an activist I would be wary of using it on or off Tor at
>>  all. If I am going to be harassed for using Facebook, it's probably
>>  unsafe to use Tor altogether. It isn't worth the risk, except in a
>>  very limited manner.
>>  I think the hidden service in this case is just gesture politics.
>>  It's not really for citizens in repressive regimes, but people who
>>  have little to fear from using Tor.
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>>  Duncan
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>> On 7 December 2016 3:20:05 pm GMT+00:00, Rana
>> <ranaventures at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>  Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Is there a reason for all exit nodes
>>>>  being public?
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>>>>  As one of the Tor users who connects to services where I have to
>>>>  use my real name (e.g., my banks), I think it's not helpful to
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>>>>  assumptions about everyone's use case. Part of why I use Tor is to
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>>>>  keep my ISPs from snooping on what I'm doing, and it's possible
>>>>  some of these millions of facebook users are doing the same.
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>>> We will never know the breakdown of the Facebook users by the reason
>>> why they use Tor. However, surely many of them are under repressive
>>> regimes and do not want their ass kicked for what they write on
>>> Facebook. Protecting them is fine purpose and anyhow, Tor has no
>>> control over how people use the network and certainly not over why
>>> they use it.
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