[tor-relays] #torstrike

[attila]

Arisbe <arisbe at cni.net> writes:

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I agree in general with a lot of what is said here, but I have to take
issue with one point:

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>     Okay, so I've been concerned about the safety of at-risk Tor users
>     since all this shit broke. New employees at the organizational
>     structure serving as the main accuser, an all new board with
>     interrelationships and motivation unknown, grenades rolled under
>     office doors and all of the rest leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I
>     cannot, at this time, recommend to a third world citizen, that (s)he
>     trust the Tor network. I hope that changes.
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>     The issue is whether or not someone new in the Tor organization
>     will, accidentally or intentionally, put third world users at risk.
>     I cannot trust an all-new board. Tor needs to be on their best
>     behavior in order for me to re-establish trust in the organization.
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>     As a retired corporate manager I've seen these problems before. I
>     have several suggestions that I feel are must-do tasks for the Tor
>     Project:
>     1) Secure an independent investigator to look into the allegations
>     against Jacob. Either demonstrate that he is not an honorable
>     employee or reinstate him. No one should trust anonymous claims
>     that can ruin his career. If Jacob is guilty, he should be
>     prosecuted;

... and this is it.

I've seen this now over and over in these discussions: if Applebaum is
guilty then some legal action must follow.

Involving your local legal system in rape and sexual misconduct cases
is problematic for many reasons.  I highly encourage anyone who thinks
that the obvious answer to the kinds of wrongdoing that Jacob
Applebaum is accused of is "the courts" to read *something* about rape
culture.  Here are three links that aren't bad starting points:

    http://time.com/40110/rape-culture-is-real/
    http://jezebel.com/5822649/why-a-rape-doesnt-get-prosecuted
    http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/03/examples-of-rape-culture/

I would also encourage anyone who thinks the police or court system of
any country on the planet are always good ways to resolve these issues
should also read this article and follow the links in it:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/18/idaho-sheriff-said-most-rape-victims-hes-worked-with-are-lying-the-numbers-disagree/

There are obviously a lot more articles online about this issue, and I
want to stress that this goes well beyond these accusations against a
specfic person.  The cries of "due process" (whatever that means
wherever you happen to be) and "if it's true charge him with a crime"
sound thin and naive to me.  They are based on assumptions that aren't
true.  If you accept this then the actions of the accusers in this
case don't look so strange or off-base and the constant scolding to
let the courts decide guilt or innocence look hollow.  It also means
that the real path forward is not so clean or easy.

>     2) Board member should be open, accessible and available to
>     employees and node operators. Their background and motivation for
>     being a director of the Tor Project should be disseminated. There
>     interrelationship with other board members should be known;
>     3) As one of the founders of Tor, Roger should openly discuss these
>     and all issues in a public manner (on the web page, webinar,
>     magazine article, etc.);
>     4) An organizational plan should be placed in the employment manual
>     that puts significant distance between coding employees and
>     directors;
>     5) Employees and directors should not operate nor have access to
>     authority servers.
>     
>     I've operated a number of exits and guards for several years now
>     (including, as far as I know, the only Tor node in Albania). [1] I
>     will leave these operational for now but I expect changes in this
>     unprofessionally operated 501c3.
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>     [1]
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