[tor-relays] #torstrike

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 11:14:59PM -0400, krishna e bera wrote:
> On 21/08/16 10:02 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > Fact: Jacob Applebaum's directory authority was a target of NSA's
> > XKEYSCORE:
> > https://contraspin.co.nz/the-weaponising-of-social-part-3-the-resurrection-of-ioerror/
> 
> Of course, perhaps they all are.
> 
> > Fact: Jacob Applebaum got kicked from Tor Inc, prior to a proper
> > investigation.
> 
> Any organization would do the same with similar allegations.  If he was
> exonerated, he could rejoin afterwards.

Put it to relevant/ external/ unbiased authorities, not internally
compromised "investigation group with chips on their shoulders".


> > Fact: The investigation done by Tor Inc, was run by the primary accusers
> > of Jacob Applebaum.
> 
> Evidence?
> 
> 
> > In the USA's war against Bradley Manning, Julian Assange, Wikileaks and
> > Edward Snowden, Jacob Applebaum was a very high target, and caused the
> > three letter agencies a lot of problems.
> >
> > So yes, operation of the network you use for -genuine- privacy needs, is
> > very much dependent on those running the organisation.
> > 
> > 
> > Fact: The ENTIRE board of Tor Inc got replaced after Jacob was given the
> > boot!
> > 
> > My conclusion: This was a coup, blunt and bloody, take no prisoners,
> > respect no righteousness.
> 
> Overdramatic.  Where's the blood?

Jacob Applebaum's scalp.


> Who was behind the coup, and what hard evidence do you have?  Are you
> looking for #torstrike to prompt leaks of such info?

I don't know that torstrike could be useful ultimately. Forking
possibly.


> Makes more sense for the Board to be distinct from the day to day
> operations people anyway.

The only thing that makes sense is that the core people are trustworthy
- there are now major problems with core Tor Inc people.


> > My conclusion: The operation of the Tor directory authorities can no
> > longer be trusted.
> 
> Perhaps it never could be.  Are you ready to run one?

Is that a genuine offer and a genuine possibility?


> > My conclusion: The deployment of TBB by Tor Inc can no longer be
> > trusted.
> 
> Fork it.

That is happening.