[tor-relays] Webtropia threatening with penalty of 5.100€

fatal fatal at mailbox.org
Sun Dec 13 16:00:22 UTC 2015

Hey spriver,

isn't webtropia is a subcompany of myloc? at least their tos state
something like that. While editing the good/bad isp wiki page I just saw
that kafkane wrote the following about myloc:

"all traffic that is "not contrary to applicable German law" is allowed.
already hosts a few exits, lots of relays" (27/10/2015)

and references a twitter comment (in german):


maybe this statement can be usefull...

On 02.12.2015 16:52, Moritz Bartl wrote:
> Hi spriver,
> This happened before. Webtropia hates Tor. They even shut us down even
> though we only planned to host a non-exit relay there. Planned to. We
> paid the setup and the first month, but they just cancelled our
> contract. We tried explaining, then I think Juris even talked to the
> CEO, and finally we asked for our money back. Not happening.
> On 12/02/2015 03:40 PM, spriver wrote:
>> They never had a problem with the fact of running an exit, from time to
>> time I got an abuse mail to which I responded with the "usual thing"
>> (that I'm running an exit and the connections are not initiated by me.
> Did you explicitly ask if they're willing to host an exit?
>> They also told me that they cannot monitor if the traffic is really Tor
>> traffic and that I should configure my server to prevent such abuse.
>> How should I proceed there?
> Find a proper hoster. And always ask _beforehand_ if they're willing to
> host an exit.
> Do not pay any penalty. Tell them they can check whether the IP in
> question was a Tor exit at http://exonerator.torproject.org/ , and that
> you're not liable and that the traffic did not originate from the
> server. Cancel the server ASAP. If they continue to threaten you over
> extra payment, contact me.

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