[tor-relays] Estimating the value and cost of the Tor network

Lluís msl12 at sde12.jazztel.es
Thu Sep 25 10:00:19 UTC 2014


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Being paid for doing what I love ???

That's really a great deal !!!

And I believe most people is thinking the same.

Lluis
Spain

On 09/25/2014 03:03 AM, Mike Perry wrote:
> Moritz Bartl:
>> Prices vary widely across different countries. We pay between 
>> $400 and $1500 per Gbit/s per month in "popular and cheap 
>> locations". In a scenario where we want to grow the network and 
>> at least keep the current geographical diversity (or even grow 
>> it), we'd have to at least equally strengthen less fortunate 
>> locations.
> 
> Right. With just one or two identity fingerprints, I can give an 
> estimate on the minimum cost to build an equivalent Tor network 
> with the same capacity, as I have already done. This is not very 
> interesting, though, as you point out.
> 
> But with just one or two good example identity fingerprints (with 
> pricing) in key locations, I can tell us how much investment it 
> would take to build the Tor network with the diversity we want, 
> using our current load balancing and network load.
> 
> In other words, I can easily calculate what it would cost to
> ensure that the network path selection was made up of W% of RU, X%
> of US relays, Y% of EU relays, Z% of JP relays, etc etc.
> 
> With many more datapoints I can tell us how much the current Tor 
> network actually costs with its current diversity, but I think
> that is actually less interesting, unless we wanted to be able to
> make assumptions like "As soon as we start paying people for
> bandwidth, all of (or X% of) our volunteers will instantly
> disappear" (which seems unlikely to me, but others think is a
> realistic concern).
> 
> *But* In order to do any of this, I need specific identity 
> fingerprints and prices to do that calculation first. Again, I
> want to extrapolate from real relays, using our current load
> balancing.
> 
> So far only two people have given me identity fingerprints with 
> actual pricing information. I need way more.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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