[tor-relays] GoodBadISPs revamp?

Thomas White thomaswhite at riseup.net
Wed Oct 15 01:35:48 UTC 2014

I will open this up on trac tomorrow and go about with a few proposals
of how exactly to redesign it. If Tor is to scale we'll need to consider
a few factors as the reasonable expectation is for both the list to
continue to grow and that if it is made easier to use, that it will be
used more often too.

One shortcoming somebody highlighted to me on IRC today was Tor doesn't
not have a page for ISPs and nearly all work communicating to ISP's is
left to the individual. If anyone is interested in perhaps forking this
onto a seperate page just let me know, otherwise should we develop this
alongside the page overhaul?


On 14/10/2014 18:38, tor-exit0 wrote:
> On 10/12/2014 6:56 PM, subkeys at riseup.net wrote:
>> [cross-posted on tor-talk and tor-relays]
>> i've found that the Tor GoodBadISPs list [1] is somewhat outdated on
>> current hosts that allow Tor (exit) relays to be hosted. i'm trying to
>> find a cheap host that allows exits to be operated from their services,
>> and navigating the outdated list and finding an operator that isn't
>> extremely expensive is time consuming (some entries go back to 2010!).
> I may have an update for Digital Ocean here soon. Over the weekend my
> exit node was used by someone brute forcing wordpress logins. As
> expected the network to my droplet was disabled and I've been
> communicating with them since. They seemed respectful that I could show
> my droplet wasn't compromised and they directed me to their TOS which
> doesn't disallow tor traffic but does hold one responsible for the traffic.
> My latest response to them is that I'm happy to address abuse but I can
> only do it if I'm informed about it however their TOS suggests that they
> may terminate droplets if abuse occurs which doesn't give me time to be
> responsible. I already run a limited exit policy to avoid DMCA hassle
> but any response to abuse by it's very nature occurs after abuse has
> taken place. I'm hoping to hear from them whether they'll allow
> responsible actions for abuse or if they will simply terminate droplets
> that have a history behind them.
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