[tor-relays] Onion address or clearnet address

Hang 21388525 at riseup.net
Thu Feb 6 17:31:02 UTC 2014


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Thx a lot Luther for the detailed explanation.

Best
Hang

Luther Blissett:
> On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 12:56 +0800, Hang wrote:
>> Some sites such as RiseUp and DuckDuckGo could be accessed via
>> onion addresses. I would like to know which address (onion
>> address vs clearnet address) should I use when using TBB. I
>> believe both ways are more or less the same in terms of identity
>> protection and communication security (provided that the clearnet
>> addresses are using HTTPS). Perhaps the main difference is using
>> the clearnet addresses adds burden to the exit relays, while
>> using onion addresses only consumes bandwidth of middle relays
>> which is relatives more in supply.
>> 
>> Am I right? Do I overlook anything? Or it doesn't matter at all
>> for either way?
> 
> No you are not. Yes you are and it does matter.
> 
> There are two main differences:
> 
> 1. When you access the clearnet you need dns name resolving which
> need to be "proxyfied" to avoid dns leaks. This issue is supposed
> to be solved on decent OSes and with TBB, but it is difficult to
> guarantee that other software/OS won't try to bypass you proxy
> settings, so it's a permanent worry. When you connect to hidden
> services, name resolving is done inside tor, never leaving out.
> 
> 2. when connecting to clearnet, tor will only guarantee
> geolocation privacy (or actually your wan IP gets hidden from the
> servers you are connecting to), but the contents of your connection
> would be exposed if the underlying protocol is not safe. When you
> connect to hidden services, you connection will never hit the
> "clear" and will be encrypted end to end, even if the underlying
> protocol is not safe.
> 
> 3. Also, hidden services provide anonymity to both ends, though
> it's said that hidden services are in need of love;
> 
> 
> 
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