[tor-relays] Contacting Apple About a Block IP Address

[Christopher Burg]

OK, I'll get on the forum from another network and messaging an admin. I'll try explaining what Tor is in the hopes that they will at least consider unblocking non-exit relays (probably won't happen but it's worth trying).

Thanks.

On Aug 13, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Chris Whittleston <csw34 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> I've had similar issues in the UK running a middle relay from my home IP.
> For a while I couldn't access any NHS websites or any BBC media, news,
> iPlayer etc.
> 
> After reporting both and explaining they were unblocked some time later - I
> never received a definitive explanation. So yes as already suggested,
> notify them off the issue and politely explain where they can find out more
> about Tor. I found Twitter to be a surprisingly good channel for contacting
> the BBC tech guys.
> 
> Good luck getting it resolved,
> 
> Chris
> On 13 Aug 2014 18:22, "Jesse Victors" <jvictors at jessevictors.com> wrote:
> 
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>> I don't know about that. The number of site that ban all Tor nodes (exits
>> and non-exits alike) is relatively low compared to the number of websites
>> that don't. The banning happens when trigger-happy sysadmins think that 1)
>> IP address == user, and 2) that banning all Tor nodes stops only spammers.
>> Neither are true, but like Thomas said they probably just downloaded a list
>> and banned all the nodes and didn't think about the 2.4 million Tor users.
>> I've run relays from my own IP address with very little problems to speak
>> of. Certainly you don't want to run an exit on your IP, that's a different
>> story.
>> 
>> Christopher, from another machine/IP, send a message to the admins of that
>> forum and explain. Be polite, explain what error message you are seeing,
>> and ask if your IP could be unbanned so that you can access their
>> discussion forum as part of your work. You could also explain that Tor is
>> an anonymity layer on top of TCP, and as your machine simply passes
>> encrypted data through the Tor network and not out of it, it poses no risk
>> of spam or abuse from anyone using Tor. If you feel that it's necessary,
>> concisely explain what Tor is, pulling from descriptions on torproject.org.
>> I think if your reasonable and work with them, you have a good chance of
>> resolving this. If not, use a different IP for accessing the Apple forum.
>> You can use an SSH tunnel, VPN, or a proxy if you need to.
>> 
>> - --
>> Jesse V.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 08/13/2014 04:00 AM, tor-relays-request at lists.torproject.org wrote:
>>> Don't run a relay from your own IP address. Pretty standard advice
>>> there sorry regardless if it's an exit or non-exit. I guess the people
>>> at Apple simply downloaded every Tor server IP and put no effort into
>>> reading the differences between types of relay because to be fair,
>>> they aren't paid to give a damn as long as it stops problems.
>>> 
>>> You could pop an email off to their customer support, but honestly I
>>> wouldn't get your hopes up with Apple.
>>> 
>>> -T
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