[tor-relays] Amazon abuse report
gordon at morehouse.me
Tue Nov 5 16:16:35 UTC 2013
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> Access to tails does not depend on any specific transfer protocol
> such as torrents correct?
> Could it not be made available on a hidden service, a website. an
> email or ftp server within tor?
An http hidden service with the .onion link in Tor docs might be an
> On 11/4/2013 11:45 PM, Nelson wrote:
>> From all that I have read in these lists not all exit nodes are
>> configured exactly the same, so some level of traffic control is
>> being rightly exercised by the operator(s). For any given reason
>> be it moral, ethical or legal many well known ports are being
>> blocked, as was previously discussed, as an example by setting up
>> a "white-listing" config rather than blacklisting, and these
>> white-listed ports exclude known ports used by Torrent sites. The
>> choice to configure the exit node should be left to the operator
>> based on their own legitimate preference and criteria.
>> The argument to "what if" is indeed relative to the level of
>> control and access to legitimate torrents such as "Tails", and
>> therefore any argument against freedom of access to legitimate
>> content defeats the purpose of Tor. This is not really an issue.
>> I'll ask a stupid question: "what comes first, the chicken or the
>> egg?" If you have access to Tor client in the first place and
>> want to download Tails, where's the problem?
>> ..and if you don't have Tor client installed in the first place,
>> where do you get it, so "they" (mel gibson quote) don't know
>> On 11/4/2013 5:23 PM, Kevin C. Krinke wrote:
>>>> On Nov 4, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Nelson <nelson at net2wireless.net
>>>> <mailto:nelson at net2wireless.net>> wrote:
>>>> I do believe there is a benefit to Torrents as many of us can
>>>> attest to, ex: fast downloads of different Linux distros; but
>>>> if your use of Torrents is in fact legit then why use Tor for
>>>> downloading your legal content in the first place? This
>>>> doesn't pass the smell test.
>>> What about someone in a highly censored locale that wants to
>>> download a copy of Tails or TBB without "them" knowing?
>>>> +1 for restricting bandwidth
>>> For the record, my exit node does limit the ports as per the
>>> reduced exit policy  and I'd happily open it up wide if I
>>> could throttle just the torrenting to a minimally-usable level.
>>> However, I honestly don't think it's realistic to spend so much
>>> effort to solve the throttling of torrents when those efforts
>>> could be better spent elsewhere .
>>> Just my 0.00000000002BTC
>>> -- Kevin C. Krinke <kevin at krinke.ca <mailto:kevin at krinke.ca>>
>>> GnuPG - 851662D2 - 0x18C67F61851662D2
 No idea what would be better deserving but I'm sure there's plenty
>>> of work in Tor-project-land that doesn't involve throttling
>>> hard-target services.
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