[tor-relays] Amazon abuse report

Paritesh Boyeyoko parity.boy at gmail.com
Sat Nov 2 20:35:59 UTC 2013

On Saturday 02 Nov 2013 17:10:50 Moritz Bartl wrote:

> As one of the large operators that indeed allows exiting on all ports
> except 25: This is on purpose. I don't consider applications that choose
> random ports as bad, I don't consider file sharing per se as bad. I
> don't want to interfere with user traffic. I wish I could leave 25 open
> as well, but our ISPs don't like that.

I suppose you and I have different philosophies regarding this. :)

If the paper I linked earlier can be considered reflective of the entire Tor 
network, knowing that 54% of the traffic on Tor is BitTorrent traffic is 

Like you and others, I'd like to see people take advantage of Tor, rather than 
simply abuse it.  I have a VPS running a middle relay and I've had to restrict 
the line rate on it to 3Mb/s to avoid going over the 1TB monthly quota and 
avoid the relay from hibernating.

Knowing that more than half that traffic is BitTorrent traffic is disheartening 

a) I will happily support Tor for its intended purpose (I hate anyone who 
tries to control/negate free speech) and

b) I know full well, as we all do, that 90%+ of BitTorrent traffic is 
copyrighted works.

As I said earlier, if Tor was 100,000+ nodes strong with 100Mb/s per node and 
unlimited bandwidth nobody would care.  Unfortunately, that isn't the case and 
the BitTorrent users very obviously don't know or care about the very real 
effect they are having.

Don't get me wrong, it's not like I hate BitTorrent and have a crusade against 
it - I don't.  In fact I use it regularly. :p I'd just like a way of actively 
discouraging its use on Tor, and as far as I can see the line is drawn (quite 
literally) at the exits.

parity.boy at gmail.com

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