[tor-relays] Store key files in RAM

Tony Xue xuezxbb at gmail.com
Tue Aug 27 04:35:30 UTC 2013


Thanks for the instructions.

So what if I set up an L2TP VPN connection from my server to my computer at
home which stores the keys and I download the file directly into the RAM
folder?

The purpose is to avoid storing the file or let the file passing through
the local normal storage system on my vserver which could be extremely
insecure in this situation.

So will any of these techniques you have described or I stated above let my
data passing through the local ROM storage system of the vserver?



> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 00:14:36 -0400
> From: tor at t-3.net
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> Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Store key files in RAM
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> IMO cut and paste in the situation you're describing is not the
> perfect way. Better way would be:
>
> Have a secure linux machine running an sshd at your home (or another
> physically-controlled location?).
> Close off iptables and ip6tables for inbound sshd except for your
> vserver's IP
> (hint: "ssh-keygen -t rsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_4096_key -b 4096"
> (don't put a password when it asks))
> and edit sshd_config to point it to the new key. Also in the config,
> force your local sshd
> server to insist upon only using these 2 ciphers ("Ciphers
> aes256-ctr,aes256-cbc").
> Restart the local sshd (maybe "service sshd restart") and verify that
> you can NOT connect
> from the vserver to the home box using a different cipher (ssh -l
> someuser -c aes128-ctr your.home.ip.here).
> A test ssh connection without the "-c aes128-ctr" should work, the one
> with it should fail.
>
> You would do transfers of important files to and from the vserver via
> an 'sftp' session which you start
> from your vserver, and you are connecting into your home machine (sftp
> someuser at your.home.ip.here).
> Don't make the connection in the reverse direction, you can push and
> pull files with the one. And don't
> let anyone steal your ssh_host_rsa_4096_key off the home box. (could
> even shred/delete/regenerate it
> now and then). In general, turn off the home sshd when you aren't
> using it.
>
> The above setup should be pretty good in terms of the network transfer
> if the data hasn't already been
> compromised, of course. The certainty that it hasn't been is not
> necessarily guaranteed if it's already
> been thrown through a network card in a less-solid way, such as the
> contents having been viewed
> via 'cat', 'nano', etc. via a connection in the 'wrong' direction.
>
> If you are deleting files from your vserver's hard drive after copying
> them out for backup, try doing
> "shred" on the file first, and then "rm". It may help do the deletion
> better, depending upon how your vserver
> hosting is set up.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday 26/08/2013 at 10:53 pm, Tony Xue  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have been discovering simple and secure way of protecting the Tor
> > key files recently, in order to achieve the safety of the keys on VPS.
> >
> > So I created a folder on Linux called /tor and it is stored in the RAM
> > file system. I put my key file into that folder and link it back to
> > the data directory folder of Tor. I also backed up the key files in
> > case my server need to be restarted and the RAM would be cleaned up. I
> > left the key in RAM for some undesired failures, errors or
> > configuration which need to restart the Tor software.
> >
> > If the server gets down, I would probably do the simple cut and paste
> > in the SSH client to restore my key files. Or in a higher level way if
> > cut&paste is not safe enough.
> >
> > I am not sure whether this is a good way to  protect my key files on a
> > VPS. Does anyone have any comment on that or a better way?
> >
> >
> > Tony
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> >
>
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