[tor-relays] Any operators in Singapore?

Asa Rossoff asa at lovetour.info
Thu Apr 25 18:33:58 UTC 2013


Addendum:

In the e-commerce rfaud template on the Tor Wiki, it ends with the folowing
interesting paragraph:

"In fact, in my experience, the fraud processing teams contracted by

many ISPs simply mark all requests from Tor nodes as fraud using that

very list. So it is even possible this is a legitimate order, but was

flagged as fraud solely based on IP, especially if you contract out

fraud detection to a third party."

 

Interesting possibility, that calls for the police to immediately dismiss
the complaint if found applicable.

They were a bit vague as to exactly what behavior Paypal (or someone else?)
has complained about.

 

Asa

 

From: Asa

 

Hi Sanjeev,

I'm new to relay operating, but I am considering funding one or two in
Singapore, so I am interested to hear how this plays out.

 

For lack of better advice: Read the FAQ and template abuse responses:

https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse.html.en#TypicalAbuses

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorAbuseTemplates

https://www.torservers.net/wiki/abuse/templates

https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-dmca-response.html.en (not directly
applicable)

 

The common theme I saw was reading the above, was to respond in a friendly
way, educating them about Tor, some of it most important purposes (not sure
if Singapore would be pro- or anti- censorship, even of Iranians and
Syrians?), and that the connection did not originate with you; that Tor has
reputable sponsors; and then offer some basic suggestions about how they
might approach the problem.  In some cases, offer to help in certain ways,
such as a reduced exit policy blocking certain ports (although this will
just redirect the abusers to other exit nodes), and provide likes to
automated data available to determine if connections are coming from Tor so
that websites can respond appropriately (such as implementing additional
security checks or, if appropriate, temporarily blocking Tor connections).
In some cases, offer to follow up with them in a week.

 

I didn't see it recommended to start off short with them, ignore them, or
say "get a court order, and then talk to my lawyer".

 

Foster cooperation and understanding, and hope for a friend-of-Tor attitude.

 

Asa

 

From: tor-relays-bounces at lists.torproject.org
[mailto:tor-relays-bounces at lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of Sanjeev Gupta
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:58 AM
To: tor-relays at lists.torproject.org
Subject: [tor-relays] Any operators in Singapore?

 

Hi,

I run a number of Tor Relays, including exit nodes, in Singapore.

I have recieved a request from the Singapore Police, who are investigating a
case of "unauthorised payments via Paypal".  They have asked for the
customer to whom I have assigned the IP address (the request is because I am
the whois contact for the network).  

 

Is there any other Singapore operator on the list who has experience?



-- 
Sanjeev Gupta
+65 98551208     http://www.linkedin.com/in/ghane

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