[tor-relays] Sorry, HotMail users, you're rejected

Steve Snyder swsnyder at snydernet.net
Mon Aug 22 20:35:28 UTC 2011


OK, I'm backing down from this after discovering the huge number of IP addresses associated with *.hotmail.com and *.live.com names.

>They understood entirely

Must be nice. My ISP, on being informed that I run a Tor exit node, informed me that I was responsible for all traffic leaving my server and that they would cancel my account if I didn't take stops to solve the problem.

Sigh.

-----Original Message-----
From: "mick" <mbm at rlogin.net>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 4:02pm
To: tor-relays at lists.torproject.org
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Sorry, HotMail users, you're rejected

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:47:42 -0700
Mike Perry <mikeperry at fscked.org> allegedly wrote:

> Thus spake Steve Snyder (swsnyder at snydernet.net):
> 
> > Got another threatening e-mail from my ISP today, prompted by
> > another SpamCop complaint regarding spam run through HotMail.
> > HotMail records the address of the originating server and that,
> > again, is my exit node.
> > 
> > So I have to curtail exit access to HotMail.  Yeah, it sucks, but I
> > know of no way to block the sending of webmail while still allowing
> > it to be retrieved.
> 
> Make sure this is done via exit policy and not iptables or DNS filter.
> 
> Also, are you sure you have the whole hotmail netblock?
> 

And make sure that you similarly block all webmail remailers. Hotmail
aren't the only ones to stick "X-Originating-IP" headers in the mail.

But seriously, I think this is a bad idea. Much better to explain to
your ISP what has happened and why you are not responsible. I have
done exactly that with my ISP when they shovelled spamcop crud my way.
They understood entirely, reacted like professionals and told spamcop
where to go. If your provider won't help, it may be time to switch
providers.

Mick


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