Costs of Portable IP Space [was: New Node]

grarpamp grarpamp at gmail.com
Fri Sep 3 09:31:34 UTC 2010


> I've tried to add yet more ports to the reduced exit policy:
> https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-harassment
> and I think this is the policy we should advise for high-speed nodes
> in the US. Thoughts about this?

Consider keeping the blog as a newsish type blog pointing to a
wikification of such potentially useful documents.


> Also, all this screams for an overhaul of the GoodBadISPs page

Yep :)



> Tor isn't even safe for P2P anyway:
> https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea

Not really. User used BT over Tor in an insecure fashion. This is
not a weakness of either BT or Tor, but of the user and their
selection, understanding and use of various combined technologies.
Combined with design limitations of BT so far.

My IP of 10.0.0.2 would be sent to my Tor proxy at 10.0.0.1 and out
an exit IP in random-ekistan-urkey-olina :)

As to being P2P being actually usable...


> I'd rather see P2P traffic on an purely internal overlay network
> like I2P, rather than overloading a network that is vital for general
> anonymous communication with the rest of the Internet, like Tor.

re internal: HS to HS is completely internal. And feasable with all
the components of P2P and other systems binding to OnionCat IPv6
addresses. Exits are not required in that case.

re i2p: I2P exposes an easier hidden service correlation: if some
I2P node out there bounces up and down, so does your hosting of
content behind it, as does its IP entry in the DB, oops. Tor requres
a GPA for that, not just an instrumented client.

re load: I see no problem with running bandwidth or transaction
intensive apps over Tor HS to HS. Provided the user also runs a
non-exit relay dedicating 6x their Tor usage back as free Tor pipe.

Tor seems to handle loading high transactions like yahoo/cnn/myspace
ok. And bandwidth like file hosters. So where are the technical
reasons regarding P2P of use??? (Other than needing to scale up
node count to each new order of magnitude.)

I'd rather see a pop-up widget that says 'HEY MORON, you've passed
a GB over Tor this week, don't you think you should give back a
little pipe by clicking here ;-)'. Or 'Tor has auto enabled a
non-exit relay based on your use. Read here to learn more and make
any adjustments.'



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