[tor-relays-universities] Tor on Campus

[April Glaser]

On 9/22/14 11:25 AM, Nik wrote:
> On 09/20/2014 03:33 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote:
>> Check out https://compass.torproject.org/
>>
>> Click on 'select only relays suitable for exit position' and then in the
>> Country box put in United States and Canada. Then ask for 100 results.
>> Then click submit, and scroll down, and look on the right-most column
>> (Autonomous System).
>>
>> You can click on the link in the Fingerprint column to see some of the
>> details you list above.
> This is great, thank you.  Very helpful.
>
> I suppose this:
>
>> Part of the general problem though is that many Tor exit relay operators
>> don't really want publicity about their choice
> is a pretty compelling reason *not* to explicitly highlight exits run at
> universities (at least not without the operator's consent).  Maybe
> something opt-in would be possible?  Although it might be sort of
> pointless if only a couple university people/groups wanted to publicize
> that they run an exit.
>
>> I wonder if somebody should start doing a "highlight a Tor exit relay
>> operator" weekly column or something, to make it more commonplace
>> to admit that you're running an exit relay? As an additional bird to
>> kill, putting a human face on exit relays


> I'm extremely interested in ways to encourage more open conversations
> about exits, "normalize" the whole process a bit, and, as you say,
> "[put] a human face on exit relays."  I think this is really important.
>
> It's amazing, and very frustrating, how much FUD, mystique, and just
> outright wrong information about Tor in general and exits specifically
> circulates among many Com Sci/engineering students (and even some
> professors).
>
> Nik
>
> On 09/20/2014 03:33 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:41:24PM -0500, Nik wrote:
>>> (A) A list of currently active exits at universities, filterable by
>>> country at least (laws/regulations are different).
>>>
>>> It would be really great to have some sections here for each university
>>> listing like: the exit policy (or policies), the way they get around
>>> problems like journal subscriptions, how they handle abuse complaints,
>>> how long the exit has been running, etc.
>> Check out https://compass.torproject.org/
>>
>> Click on 'select only relays suitable for exit position' and then in the
>> Country box put in United States and Canada. Then ask for 100 results.
>> Then click submit, and scroll down, and look on the right-most column
>> (Autonomous System).
>>
>> You can click on the link in the Fingerprint column to see some of the
>> details you list above.
>>
>> Part of the general problem though is that many Tor exit relay operators
>> don't really want publicity about their choice -- they've gotten enough
>> buy-in locally to run the relay, but they don't really want CNN to show
>> up wanting to interview their dean about why she is endorsing Tor.
>>
>> I wonder if somebody should start doing a "highlight a Tor exit relay
>> operator" weekly column or something, to make it more commonplace
>> to admit that you're running an exit relay? As an additional bird to
>> kill, putting a human face on exit relays might help answer some of the
>> concerns I get from people (even otherwise smart Tor fans) who say that
>> the only people who can afford to run stable exit relays are people who
>> are collaborating with the authorities to undermine Tor.
>>
>> --Roger

This is an interesting idea. Anyone else have any ideas of ways to
demystify for students and uni administrators (and everyone, really!)?

 Maybe a monthly instead of a weekly series might be more likely.
>>
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