[tor-dev] Stormy (was Re: Potential projects for SponsorR (Hidden Services))

Shawn Nock nock at nocko.se
Tue Nov 4 14:41:01 UTC 2014

Is the stormy code available anywhere yet? 

There seem to be no commits in the stormy repo (none in user/griffin/stormy.git either). A cursory web search didn't help either.

I'd love to review/test/contribute.

On November 4, 2014 8:18:49 AM EST, George Kadianakis <desnacked at riseup.net> wrote:
>Griffin Boyce <griffin at cryptolab.net> writes:
>> Roger Dingledine wrote:
>> <snip>
>>>> - #8902 	Rumors that hidden services have trouble scaling to 100
>>>> concurrent connections
>>   I've been curious about this ticket for a while, and happy to
>> structure&run a follow-up test on a controlled server.  Since the
>> original problem was with an IRC server, it makes sense to set one up
>> for the purposes of a test, and then set up a secondary machine for
>> user' connections and an extra monitoring point.
>Yes, someone testing this theory would be awesome!
>I would be surprised if 100 connections is the _exact_ number where
>HSes starts dying. However, I'd totally believe that there might be
>issues causing HSes to get more unreliable after some load. We should
>find these issues!
>>   I suspect that there are other factors that might have influenced
>> that report.  Could it be an issue with one of the intermediary
>> points?  There certainly *seem* to be tons of people using the OFTC
>> hidden service, but that could be perception (ie, still <100
>> concurrent users).
>> <snip>
>>> What sorts of hidden service examples are we missing from the world
>>> that
>>> we'd really like to see, and that would help everybody understand
>>> value and flexibility of hidden services?
>>> Along these lines would be fleshing out the "hidden service
>>> idea I've been kicking around, where as a follow-up to the EFF relay
>>> challenge, we challenge everybody to set up a novel hidden service.
>>> would somehow need to make it so people didn't just stick their
>>> website behind a hidden service -- or maybe that would be an
>>> outcome?
>>   This could be fun. =)  We could put out a blog post when Stormy
>> reaches 1.0 about this too.
>Ah Stormy!
>I was a fan of the APAF project [0] and Stormy seems to be its
>successor. I liked APAF because it would be the LAMP of Hidden
>Services: it would make them easier to setup and configure.
>For this reason, I think Stormy fits very well with Roger's hopes of
>"improving" the role of HSes in society.
>I'm excited to learn what you've been cooking in this front.
>Is there a document that describes what Stormy aims to do? It would be
>great if such a design document existed even if Stormy is not at 1.0
>yet :) The document doesn't need to be big or detailed, but it would
>be great if we could learn what Stormy is about.
>[0]: https://gitweb.torproject.org/apaf.git/blob/HEAD:/spec.txt
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