[tor-dev] Vidalia 2.0 - an complete rewrite

Nick Mathewson nickm at alum.mit.edu
Thu Feb 21 17:17:28 UTC 2013

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Leo Unglaub <leo at leo-unglaub.net> wrote:
> Hey guys,
> thanks for all the feedback. I am happy there is an interest from your
> part in this project.
> I am trying to answer to all of your questions below.

>> I don't know very much about the Gnome architecture -- will this
>> work for users who aren't using the Gnome desktop?
> Yes, this will work for non-gnome users to. gnome-shell, mate, xfce,
> kde, lxde, windows, ... all are no problem. I never tryed it on a MAC
> but normally it should work there to.


>> Are you aiming for portability?
> Yes, i am trying to support all plattforms. This is actually new to
> me, becuase normaly i develop only linux applications using vala. But
> i realize that people don't always have linux, so i am aiming to
> support them to. Hopefully with your help, because i don't have a mac
> to build dmg packages.

Nice. Python and GTK should make that fairly straightforward, I'd hope.

>> Also, what license are you thinking of going with?
> All my projects are released under the GPL/LGPL. But if the Tor
> project requires a different open source licence, i have no problem
> with double licences as long as they are open source and allow the
> user to do whatever they want to do with it.

Most of our stuff is 3-clause BSD, but Vidalia is IIRC GPL.  For
whatever it's worth,

>> That would be... quite a substantial project.
> I am not quit sure of the meaning "substantial". Does this mean it's
> an important project or does this mean you think it's to large/huge to
> perform?

I think they mean "sounds like a lot of work!"  Still IMO worthwhile.

>> What language did you use?
> I used Python. Normally i am a Vala/C user, but i always wanted to try
> Python because so much users recommended it and this project seamed
> like a good idea to try it. So to answer your Question, it's Python
> 2.7 / 3. I am aiming to support both versions. Also i am trying to
> support PyPy for more speed.

Cool.  Is speed an issue for this?  I would have thought that there
wouldn't be very many slow things to do.

>> How long have you been working on this
> I have spend the last 2 weeks on it. If you are used to Vala thats not
> a lot of time for a project, but with python development is so damn
> fast. So i am actually pretty far with my plans.
> Currently i am working on the tor-control-specs implementation. Thats
> not 100% done yet. But most of the UI stuff is done and core functions
> like the param parsing, the config editors or some notification classes.

You might really want to check out stem or txtorconn before you do
another complete Python controller library implementation.


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