[community] search function for support.tpo

Alison Macrina alison at torproject.org
Mon Feb 11 16:07:00 UTC 2019


Hi all, I just realized this conversation stalled, and I'd like to bump
it and figure out next steps.

Alison

Alison Macrina
Community Team Lead
The Tor Project

Roger Dingledine:
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 10:22:24AM +0100, Linus Nordberg wrote:
>> - Are we limited to using solr, as mentioned in #25322, or can we
>>   explore other options?
> 
> I have vague memories that Isa and Hiro explored other options,
> like outsourcing it to duckduckgo, but apparently the user flow was
> horrible. So, I don't know what constraints we want now, but there is
> some history of exploring other options.
> 
>> - User fronting tpo web sites are "on the static rotation" because
>>   that's how we can keep them up and running given the resources at
>>   hand. Adding dynamic content, i.e. anything that is not "oh, that url
>>   corresponds to this file, let's send it to the user", would not be
>>   possible on our current set of VM's given the load we see on user
>>   facing tpo websites. This means that one of the proposed solutions
>>   with web servers proxying requests to a separate service, search.tpo,
>>   is not an option.
> 
> If there's some way to limit the number of searches (proxypasses) going
> at once, so a crawler doesn't take down (fill all the slots of) all of
> our static webservers, this idea might still be worth exploring. I feel
> a bit bad putting in place something that is so obviously going to be a
> source of ongoing pain, but I don't know of amazing better options that
> match all the other goals.
> 
>> Another argument against proxying is that it breaks
>>   the expectation of end-to-end security given by HTTPS.
> 
> If we're proxying to another service running *on that same machine*,
> then I think we're ok on this point. It's just if we have some central
> separate search service that it would be a problem. So for example if
> solr is our choice, we could run a replicated solr on each webserver.
> 
> --Roger
> 


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