[community] Tor usage in North Korea as a foreigner

Kate Krauss ailanthus at riseup.net
Thu Aug 29 18:48:33 UTC 2019


Hi Gabriel,

No, I have nothing Tor or Tails specific.

Cheers,

ailanthus

On 2019-08-29 10:12 am, Gabriel Sandor wrote:
> Hi Kate,
> 
> Thank you for your view on this matter.
> 
> Is there a source claiming Tor is so frowned-upon in North Korea?
> 
> Otto Warmbier is a different case, he was accused of stealing posters,
> not cyber crimes or using unauthorized software.
> 
> Either way, it's indeed a risk that should not be taken lightly.
> 
> Best regards,
> Gabriel 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:51 AM Kate Krauss <ailanthus at riseup.net>
> wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> I intend to bring my own laptop and a USB stick from which i will
>> boot
>>> the TAILS OS.
>>
>> Hi Gabriel,
>>
>> Just one person's view:
>>
>> Consider the benefit vs the risk:
>>
>> Benefit: You'll get uncensored and private Internet in North Korea
>> (although outside actors will be able to see that you are using
>> Tor).
>>
>> The risk, though, is that you will be detained in North Korea for an
>> unspecified amount of time. I'm sure you are familiar with the case
>> of
>> Otto Warmbier [0]. North Korea has a pattern of detaining harmless
>> tourists and using them as political pawns. It's less a question of
>> your
>> actions than just your presence on the scene. Illegal actions are
>> whatever the government says they are.
>>
>> Note that the US govt is advising US nationals (not saying you are
>> one,
>> but fyi) not to travel to North Korea at all due to "risk of arrest
>> and
>> longterm detention of US nationals[1]. Also, NGOs use USB drives to
>> smuggle political propaganda into North Korea, increasing the
>> likelihood
>> that a USB will receive extra attention from the authorities.
>>
>> If I were you, I would not do this.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> ailanthus
>>
>> [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Warmbier
>> [1]
>>
> https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/north-korea-travel-advisory.html
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