[or-cvs] some early notes on a "challenges in tor" paper

Roger Dingledine arma at seul.org
Fri Jan 7 03:22:20 UTC 2005


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some early notes on a 'challenges in tor' paper


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Challenges in bringing low-latency stream anonymity to the masses


\section{Introduction}

We deployed this thing called Tor. it's got all these different types of
users. it's been backed by navy and eff, and prime and anonymizer looked at
it. Because we're this cool, you should believe us when we tell you stuff.

In this paper we give the reader an understanding of Tor's context
in the anonymity space and then we go on to describe the variety of
practical challenges that stand in the way of moving from a practical
useful network to a practical useful anonymous network.

% The goal of the paper is to get the PET-audience reader up to speed
% on all the issues we have with Tor, so he can, if he wants,
% * understand the technical and policy and legal issues and why they're
%   tricky in practice
% * help us out with answering some of the technical decisions
%   (and in writing it, we'll clarify our own opinions about them)
% * help us out with answering some of the anonymity questions

\section{What Is Tor}

Tor works like this.

weasel's graph of # nodes and of bandwidth, ideally from week 0.

Tor has the following goals.

and we made these assumptions when trying to design the thing.

\section{Tor's position in the anonymity field}

There are many other classes of systems: single-hop proxies, open proxies,
jap, mixminion, flash mixes, freenet, i2p, mute/ants/etc, tarzan,
morphmix, freedom. Give brief descriptions and brief characterizations
of how we differ. This is not the breakthrough stuff and we only have
a page or two for it.


\section{Crossroads}

Discuss each item that Tor hasn't solved yet that isn't just coding
work.  Perhaps we'll have so many that we can pick out the best ones to
discuss, so it's a bit less of a laundry list. Maybe they'll even fit
into categories. The trick to making the paper good will be to find
the right balance between going into depth and breadth of coverage.


Peer-to-peer / practical issues:

Network discovery, sybil, node admission, scaling. It seems that the code
will ship with something and that's our trust root. We could try to get
people to build a web of trust, but no. Where we go from here depends
on what threats we have in mind. Really decentralized if your threat is
RIAA; less so if threat is to application data or individuals or...

Making use of servers with little bandwidth. How to handle hammering by
certain applications.

Handling servers that are far away from the rest of the network, e.g. on
the continents that aren't North America and Europe. High latency,
often high packet loss.

Running Tor servers behind NATs, behind great-firewalls-of-China, etc.
Restricted routes. How to propagate to everybody the topology? BGP
style doesn't work because we don't want just *one* path. Point to
Geoff's stuff.

Routing-zones. It seems that our threat model comes down to diversity and
dispersal. But hard for Alice to know how to act. Many questions remain.

The China problem. We have lots of users in Iran and similar (we stopped
logging, so it's hard to know now, but many Persian sites on how to use
Tor), and they seem to be doing ok. But the China problem is bigger. Cite
Stefan's paper, and talk about how we need to route through clients,
and we maybe we should start with a time-release IP publishing system +
advogato based reputation system, to bound the number of IPs leaked to the
adversary.


Policy issues:

Bittorrent and dmca. Should we add an IDS to autodetect protocols and
snipe them? Takedowns and efnet abuse and wikipedia complaints and irc
networks. Should we allow revocation of anonymity if a threshold of
servers want to?

Logging. Making logs not revealing. A happy coincidence that verbose
logging is our #2 performance bottleneck. Is there a way to detect
modified servers, or to have them volunteer the information that they're
logging verbosely? Would that actually solve any attacks?


Anonymity issues:

Transporting the stream vs transporting the packets.

The DNS problem in practice.

Applications that leak data. We can say they're not our problem, but
they're somebody's problem.

How to measure performance without letting people selectively deny service
by distinguishing pings. Heck, just how to measure performance at all. In
practice people have funny firewalls that don't match up to their exit
policies and Tor doesn't deal.

Mid-latency. Can we do traffic shape to get any defense against George's
PET2004 paper? Will padding or long-range dummies do anything then? Will
it kill the user base or can we get both approaches to play well together?

Does running a server help you or harm you? George's Oakland attack.
Plausible deniability -- without even running your traffic through Tor! We
have to pick the path length so adversary can't distinguish client from
server (how many hops is good?).

When does fixing your entry or exit node help you?
Helper nodes in the literature don't deal with churn, and
especially active attacks to induce churn.

Survivable services are new in practice, yes? Hidden services seem
less hidden than we'd like, since they stay in one place and get used
a lot. They're the epitome of the need for helper nodes. This means
that using Tor as a building block for Free Haven is going to be really
hard. Also, they're brittle in terms of intersection and observation
attacks. Would be nice to have hot-swap services, but hard to design.


P2P + anonymity issues:

Incentives. Copy the page I wrote for the NSF proposal, and maybe extend
it if we're feeling smart.

Usability: fc03 paper was great, except the lower latency you are the
less useful it seems it is.
A Tor gui, how jap's gui is nice but does not reflect the security
they provide.
Public perception, and thus advertising, is a security parameter.

Network investigation: Is all this bandwidth publishing thing a good idea?
How can we collect stats better? Note weasel's smokeping, at
http://seppia.noreply.org/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=Tor
which probably gives george and steven enough info to break tor?

Do general DoS attacks have anonymity implications? See e.g. Adam
Back's IH paper, but I think there's more to be pointed out here.

% need to do somewhere in the paper:

have a serious discussion of morphmix's assumptions, since they would
seem to be the direct competition. in fact tor is a flexible architecture
that would encompass morphmix, and they're nearly identical except for
path selection and node discovery. and the trust system morphmix has
seems overkill (and/or insecure) based on the threat model we've picked.

need to discuss how we take the approach of building the thing, and then
assuming that, how much anonymity can we get. we're not here to model or
to simulate or to produce equations and formulae. but those have their
roles too.




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