[Tor-censorship-events] [IMPORTANT] How sad would you be if we shut down this mailing list?

Patrick apexcp at gmail.com
Tue Aug 11 14:12:24 UTC 2015


I'd be pretty sad but I guess I'm in the minority?

This is a great way to keep track of the fluctuations of Tor usage around
the world. When there's a big event going on, eg protests and censorship in
Turkey, it's really phenomenal to be able to turn here and get some numbers
on how people are responding.

On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Karsten Loesing <karsten at torproject.org>
wrote:

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> Dear person who is interested in Tor censorship events,
>
> how sad would you be if we shut down the tor-censorship-events@
> mailing list?
>
> I'm asking, because I'm about to move the Metrics website to a new
> host, and I'd want to leave behind any unused parts while doing so.
> This list very much looks like the perfect candidate for not being moved.
>
> Here's why:
>
>  - All mails sent to this list in August covered July 30, and yet
> nobody noticed.
>
>  - A couple months back I changed how userstats are updated from daily
> to every three days, but I didn't adapt the script sending out these
> mails, which still only covers a single day, and yet nobody noticed.
>
>  - The links contained in these emails have been broken since November
> 2014, and yet nobody noticed.
>
> Note that I understand the desire to be informed about automatically
> detected censorship of the Tor network.  But this script and mailing
> list is not what we want, it just leaves us under the impression that
> we have a somewhat working solution.  We don't.  And maybe that even
> prevents people from building something better.
>
> Here's my plan:
>
>  - If I hear a convincing reason why we should keep this mailing list
> in the next 72 hours (that would be Wednesday, August 12, 12:00 UTC),
> I'll move it to the new host and will even try to fix the bugs above.
>
>  - If I don't hear such a reason, I'll kill the list with fire.
>
> Thoughts?  (Just respond to this list, and I'll manually approve your
> posting, despite this list not being a discussion list.)
>
> All the best,
> Karsten
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