[tor-bugs] #16221 [Tor Browser]: Enable WebRTC with TCP-ICE (and hidden services?)

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#16221: Enable WebRTC with TCP-ICE (and hidden services?)
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     Reporter:  mikeperry    |      Owner:  tbb-team
         Type:  enhancement  |     Status:  new
     Priority:  normal       |  Milestone:
    Component:  Tor Browser  |    Version:
   Resolution:               |   Keywords:  ff38-esr
Actual Points:               |  Parent ID:
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Description changed by mikeperry:

Old description:

> Mozilla added support for WebRTC over TCP, and WebRTC proxy support in
> Firefox 34 and 38:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891551
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=949703
>
> This might mean we can actually enable WebRTC now, if we turn off all of
> the IP address discovery and non-TCP ICE mechanisms:
> https://github.com/diafygi/webrtc-ips
>
> We could also potentially list a hidden service address as a WebRTC ICE
> endpoint, though we would need to be careful about this since it means
> that potentially every Tor Browser user who visits a WebRTC-enabled page
> would suddenly spin up a hidden service. I wonder if we can have Tor
> create the keys for a hidden service without actually starting it up
> unless it is actually negotiated by WebRTC.
>
> This suggestion actually came from wiretapped. WebRTC is no longer just
> for making calls. Tons of crazy decentralized apps are being built on top
> of it. Ex: https://instant.io/

New description:

 Mozilla added support for WebRTC over TCP, and WebRTC proxy support in
 Firefox 34 and 38:
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891551
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=949703

 This might mean we can actually enable WebRTC now, if we turn off all of
 the IP address discovery and non-TCP ICE mechanisms:
 https://github.com/diafygi/webrtc-ips

 We could also potentially list a hidden service address as a WebRTC ICE
 endpoint, though we would need to be careful about this since it means
 that potentially every Tor Browser user who visits a WebRTC-enabled page
 would suddenly spin up a hidden service. I wonder if we can have Tor
 create the keys for a hidden service without actually starting it up
 unless it is actually negotiated by WebRTC. OTOH, it may not be helpful to
 have an address that isn't accessible yet. I suppose it depends on how the
 ICE handshake works and how addresses are tried/negotiated.

 This suggestion actually came from wiretapped (leif). WebRTC is no longer
 just for making calls. Tons of crazy decentralized apps are being built on
 top of it. Ex: https://instant.io/

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