[tor-bugs] #14159 [Tor Messenger]: Tor Messenger branding

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#14159: Tor Messenger branding
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     Reporter:  sukhbir        |      Owner:  sukhbir
         Type:  enhancement    |     Status:  assigned
     Priority:  normal         |  Milestone:
    Component:  Tor Messenger  |    Version:
   Resolution:                 |   Keywords:  TorMessengerPublic
Actual Points:                 |  Parent ID:  #14161
       Points:                 |
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Comment (by vynX):

 "Chat like they used to do" is a shortsighted goal considering they never
 actually had liberty from surveillance while they were chatting before.
 This isn't helpful in the goal of "stopping the Internet from being the
 greatest threat to democracy" (assange/ioerror/jerezim/amm). That may not
 be your motivation as of this moment, but I am afraid you will later
 realize you were on the wrong side of history. Client/server architectures
 are here to die if we want democracy to stay. So I fully agree with the
 author of #5498 and I'm sorry if I can't deliver a compelling explanation
 why client/server architectures are a threat in a few lines of a bug
 ticket. Wait, I can at least hint at it. Check out
 freehaven.net/anonbib/cache/DBLP:conf/sp/NarayananS09.pdf then imagine the
 authorities get their hands on $onionServer and comparing its social graph
 data to those of Facebook, Twitter or jabber.ccc.de. I bet authorities
 will be successful at de-anonymizing most users of Tor
 Messenger/Pidgin/youNameIt. Doing a better Pidgin is IMHO not a short-term
 improvement to the situation. It's furthering and possibly cementing bad
 habits.

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