[tor-bugs] #7056 [Company]: Proposal: Produce Tor Expert Packages and Tails.

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#7056: Proposal: Produce Tor Expert Packages and Tails.
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 Reporter:  cypherpunks  |          Owner:     
     Type:  project      |         Status:  new
 Priority:  normal       |      Milestone:     
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 I was introduced to Tor at
 [http://wiki.techcampglobal.org/#TechCamp_Zanzibar_October_2_-_3 TechCamp
 Zanzibar] by Karen. I spent the past two days of travel engorging all that
 is Tor. I had a phone call with Andrew as well. I am unclear where in the
 world Andrew resides, but he was very professional about my call at what
 was likely very early in the morning on a week end. Here are my
 impressions as a successful entrepreneur looking at advanced technology
 which is equivalent to magic for most of the world.

 I installed Tor Browser on my macbook and started to use it. I read
 through the documentation, once I found it. It appears to be using Tor
 Browser on your main system is fraught with peril. In fact, couple the
 NOScript usability issues with the scary warnings about downloading
 something and Tor Browser on your main system seems wholly illogical and
 unsafe to use. I removed Tor Browser.

 You work with the Tails project. I propose using Tor on anything BUT at
 dedicated anonymity machine is unsafe. It should only be used inside
 Tails. The Tor Project should only produce the Tor expert bundles and the
 Tails operating system. Anything else is putting users at risk. The Tor
 Expert package is solely for those experts who understand how to use Tor,
 configure the bits, and understand their risks. This set of people
 encompasses users who think they know all of this too.

 The Tails operating system is based on Debian linux. It should be said
 that this operating system is a tool. It is not a general purpose
 operating system for everyone. It works fantastically inside parallels on
 my macbook. I suggest shipping Tails as the default download.

 This proposal allows Tor to continue to focus on its core products:
  1. Research and academic output.
  2. The core Tor software.
  3. The Tails Operating System.
  4. Education of the world on the previous three products.

 These four products are all Tor should be building. Everything else is
 secondary to the project and a distraction.

 I have reviewed the [https://www.torproject.org/projects/projects.html.en
 Tor Projects] page and discovered you are distracted from your core goal.
 Andrew explained how many of these products are related to the core tor
 research. He is wrong and making excuses. And he knows it. The Tor Project
 has too few people according to your core people page, doing too many
 things. I strongly suggest you hire a true Product Manager to make these
 decisions. Sell all of these useless products to some other company and
 focus on the four products above.

 Good day.

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