[tbb-dev] Cloudflare's OPRFs
burdges at gnunet.org
Mon Jan 15 14:31:39 UTC 2018
On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 08:53 +0000, Georg Koppen wrote:
> Could you elaborate on the problem you see a bit? What exactly
> would be the attack scenario given edge1, edge2, ..., edgeN and
> why are DLEQ proofs not sufficient for that? What do you mean
> by "your edge public key"?
There is a secret scalar k used in CloudFlare's OPRF scheme which yields
a public curve point K = g^k.
If different k are used for different clients then those clients are
distinguished from one another later when using the tokens.
In batching the DLEQ proofs, they prove that all tokens within a batch
share the same k, but the important question is:
How do you know if different users are given different K?
George said K was originally simply pinned in the Privacy Pass plugin,
which works fine. It's hard to know if CloudFlare wants to keep it that
way, maybe they're okay with sharing the secret k among many servers, or
maybe they've no choice base on how Tor users move.
In general, CloudFlare's answer is an unspecified certificate
transparency scheme. I'm nervous about nebulously saying certificate
transparency here because it's problematic if CloudFlare starts using
different k on different servers, which they might do if they want to
protect k better.
I think short version for Tor Browser is: You can deploy Privacy Pass
with a pinned K safely, but.. Anytime CloudFlare updates Privacy Pass,
Tor Browser folk should check if they change handling of K. If they do,
then any new scheme requires careful review. Ideally Tor Browser users
should not independently update to any new CloudFlare version.
p.s. We might ask if a purely local certificate transparency logs work:
If Tor is anonymous, then CloudFlare cannot detect when the same users
withdraws some new batch, so if they give this user a new K and their
client remembers the old K then their client can detect this and raise
I think this fails for several reasons: First, there are attacks on
Tor, including attacks we believe many adversaries do not use due to
cost, but Privacy Pass without an external certificate transparency
magnifies these attacks effectiveness. Second, Tor is typically run in
situations like Tails where its hard to persist a local certificate
p.s.2 Any such scheme runs into this problem. In Taler, denomination
keys face similar problems, except our tokens already represent money,
so we already have a full PKI for denomination keys, extensive error
reporting, and our merchants provide a de facto certificate transparency
scheme. In other words, an adversarial exchange must tell merchants all
the denomination keys, make all auditors sign them all, and then tell a
targeted user only about a subset. That said, Taler can any certificate
transparency scheme used by Privacy Pass can also be used by Taler,
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