[ooni-talk] OONI hardware?

Jan Pavlinec jan.pavlinec at nic.cz
Wed Sep 4 11:42:05 UTC 2019


I just want to note that right now, it's possible to run some test with
measurement-kit app on routers with latest OpenWrt. (

It should be also possible to run probe-cli on OpenWrt routers (since
OpenWrt SDK supports golang)  I'm experimenting with that right now, but
it will probably require more time.


Dne 03. 09. 19 v 16:39 Arturo Filastò napsal(a):
> Hi Ilf,
> Thanks for bringing this important topic up!
>     On Sunday, Aug 18, 2019 at 12:01 AM
>     <canary:event?ts=587772065.00>, ilf <ilf at zeromail.org
>     <mailto:ilf at zeromail.org>> wrote:
>     Friends,
>     I do quite some traveling, including to regions and countries that
>     could 
>     benefit from (another) OONI probe. However, I have not really found a 
>     good way to actually put OONI to use. The main reason is: all my
>     devices 
>     heavily use VPNs and Tor.
>     Have you ever thought about some tiny OONI hardware probe? I for one 
>     would love an small device, for example powered by PoE and getting 
>     uplink via ethernet, or powered by USB and getting uplink via WLAN. 
>     Something like a RIPE Atlas
>     Probe: https://atlas.ripe.net/docs/probe-v2/
>     Three ideas come to mind:
>     1. Someone probably already hack up something like this on a
>     Raspberry 
>     Pi or similar. Can someone point me to this?
> Some time ago we had a Raspberry Pi image that supported running OONI
> Probe out of the box, however it turned out to be too much effort to
> maintain it and keep it up to date,
> see: https://github.com/thetorproject/lepidopter.
> While it’s probably still the easiest way to get a dedicated OONI
> Probe hardware probe, you should keep in mind that it’s running a very
> old version of debian (jessie) and we don’t have plans to support it
> in the future.
> In going forward we believe that Android is the most promising
> platform to support this style of automated testing. You can easily
> acquire a very cheap android device (if you consider all the
> accessories to a raspberry pi it adds up being much less) and we don’t
> have to maintain up to date the base OS (this is handled by Android).
> Moreover you have a UI that allows you to connect the device to a wifi
> network and provide feedback to the user (in lepidopter this was a
> challenge and we did not support connecting to wifi network, but only
> cable).
> Within the next 2 releases of OONI Probe we will be re-adding support
> for automated testing in Android which will open up the possibility to
> setting up a device and leaving it somewhere.
> We also have plans for adding features that are more tailored to the
> hardware style deployment in OONI Probe Android so stay tuned for
> updates on that front.
>     2. Time and money are limited, and having something like this as a 
>     "product" needs both. But something like this could also vastly
>     increase 
>     the amount of probes. The Android App already drastically lowered the 
>     bar to running a probe. But some dongle one would just have to
>     plug in 
>     somewhere would lower that even more. And if cheap enough, they could 
>     just be left in interesting places.
> Another maybe related idea that we had was of making a version of OONI
> Probe Android specifically designed for Android TV devices. You can
> buy these devices for super cheap (like less than 50 EUR) and they are
> pretty much plug and play.
>     3. RIPE Atlas Probes serve a different purpose. But has anyone ever 
>     talked to RIPE NCC about the possibility of maybe running OONI on
>     them?
> We are in touch with them and I think we share some set of common
> goals, though their focus is less on internet censorship and more on
> general networking, which is why their scope is a bit different to
> that of OONI.
> Hope this helps answer some of your questions.
> Ciao!
> ~ Arturo
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