[ooni-dev] detailed meeting notes 2013-07-08

Meredith Whittaker meredithrachel at google.com
Mon Jul 8 20:51:55 UTC 2013

Thanks for taking notes!

I'll be reviewing the threat model from an M-Lab perspective and adding git
issues, as is custom. I plan to make time for this before the end of this
week. If anyone has any specific questions I can answer before then, don't


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Nathan Wilcox <nathan at leastauthority.com>wrote:

> Arturo:
> We're working on specification tasks.
> We completed backend spec; including specifying collector policy for
> both inputs and net-tests.
> Stephen reviewed the spec:
> https://github.com/TheTorProject/ooni-spec/blob/master/oonib.md
> Two points of discussion:
> S 2.5 how we publish reports - Ooni suggested scp, but MLab may be
> different.  We should leave that out of the backend spec, because it
> depends on the backend infrastructure.
> How will the test_helper learn effective probe IP address?  Stephen
> and Arturo realize they misunderstood the issue, and this should
> already be handled by ooni (see:
> https://github.com/TheTorProject/ooni-probe/issues/90).  Daira
> discussed alternatives with Arturo.
> Why is the collector exposed by https and tor hidden service is
> answered in the spec.
> Added a feature which exposes inputs / decks from the backend.
> Added a "bouncer" in the spec which aids in discovery for test helpers
> and collectors.  This is similar to mlab-ns.  Some aspects might be
> implemented by mlab-ns.  There's a need for ooni to provide
> requirements for mlab-ns.  Stephen will review that spec and send
> questions about "bouncer" to understand how similar it is to mlab-ns.
> We improved some charts: backend dataflow diagram.  Stephen will do
> something similar for MLab.
> See:
> https://github.com/TheTorProject/ooni-spec/blob/master/diagrams/ooni-backend-diagram.pdf
> Nathan asks: Should the ooni-spec and ooni-probe wiki be merged?
> Arturo suggests we (Arturo & Aaron) should consolidate ooni-spec,
> should migrate to the wiki.
> Nathan gives a Threat Model presentation.  That's me! -so I didn't
> take notes on that section.  It was an overview of this wiki:
> https://github.com/TheTorProject/ooni-probe/wiki/Threat-Model
> As is apparently now our custom: "Toodles!"
> --
> Nathan Wilcox
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Meredith Whittaker
Program Manager, Google Research
Google NYC
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