hello Tor,

I thought of sharing this with y'all since it touches different things.

In São Paulo we did a Tor training, Gus explained how information about you and your computer can be collected online and used to identify you and learn your online behavior.

Then he explained how Tor can help you to protect your online identity and we spend some time with people installing Tor on desktop (linux and mac mostly) and on mobile (Android and iOS).

After everyone had installed I did a quick exercise with everyone where I asked them to write their impressions, could be complains of things that didn't work as expected or just feedback related to how they would like to the tools to behave or missing features.

This is a compilation of that feedback :) you will notice that we are already working on fixing some of this stuff which is great, it shows we are on the right path. But some things were new and could even be a bug (which in this case I hope you help me confirm that and I will create a ticket).

- surprised with the speed of the network, had used it before and gave up on it because of how slow it was, but now it seems faster - could not install it due to old OS version - plug-ins that are already installed as part of Tor Browser made the person confused (should Tor Browser come with plug-ins when it recommends to not install plug-ins) - Orfox + Orbot: settings for both are quite confusing and complicated to understand - on iOS app store - apps that are not recommended by Tor has Tor's logo while OnionBrowser doesn't - it wasn't easy to know that some sites (with javascript or http only) was not working because of security reasons (this lead the person to give up on Tor Browser - before this training - thinking it was bug not a feature) - Didn't understood what is the need of Orbot, besides using it to connect Orfox to Tor - It's not clear when you download Orfox that you need Orbot too - could not find the apk for Orbot and Orfox on the torproject.org website - Debian stable (backports) did not find the Tor Browser pt-br version for installing the package - information is all in English - need to be translated to Portuguese BR - could not find the circuit it was using on Android (neither on Orfox or Orbot) - could not find how to change the languages settings of Orbot - it's hard to verify that you are downloading the right build from torproject.org website (signature verification process) - OnionBrowser is crashing every time you go away from browser or lock your phone; the browser crashes and you need to restart it all over again and reestablish the Tor network connection - could not understand why the sites were not behaving as expected (didn't make the connection of it with TB security features that was blocking things to protect them) - on Debian the security slider configurations were not sticking - user would pick a configuration i.e. safest close the browser, re-open it and the browser was back on 'standard' - what does Tor recommends? Is not clear if we recommend standard or safest (higher security) when using Tor Browser. User would like to follow our recommendation since they aren't sure what to use - language settings on Orbot was not sticking (user had to pick it again after closing the app)

cheers, isabela