Nathan, you might enjoy this story. I was demoing OnionLink at FOSSAsia, and talking about Tor, etc. At the end of the demo a chinese woman came up to me and asked whether this "Tor" thing I spoke of was as good as the Orbot she used on her phone, because she knew from experience that Orbot was very good, but she wasn't sure she could trust this "Tor" thing. [I assured her that Tor was indeed just as good as her trusted Orbot.] I thought this was powerfully illuminating of the importance of mobile outside of the West. Many of these users do not have a laptop, they merely have their PC at work/home, and a large phablet-like device on which they do everything else. In short: Nathan, you are right that mobile well deserves a first-tier platform and not play second-fiddle. -V On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 1:47 AM, Nathan Freitas <nathan@freitas.net> wrote:

On Fri, Apr 15, 2016, at 03:16 AM, Karsten Loesing wrote:

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Isabela: 1) meeting Laura w/ Shari this Friday. Hope to hear better news from her. I emailed DRL requesting the follow up phone call they offered in the rejection email. I also pinged Dan to see if he is around, should be good to check in with him as well. ... 4) Next week on implementers meetings at DRL till the 20th (Wed). 20th is also the soft deadline for OTF full proposal and deadline for sponsorT report.

From my perspective in hindsight, I think neither of the SoIs emphasized mobile enough, based on the previous excitement and interest DRL seemed to express earlier in that area.

I think writing a "Funding All Things Mobile Tor" SoI would likely be funded by DRL and/or OTF. We would need to go very big in the vision of supporting both Android and iOS as first tier platforms, including support for community projects like OnionShare and Ricochet. All of the core work on little t-tor, infrastructure, metrics, etc would be supported by this funding, but it is just that instead of starting with those things as end results or outputs, they become highly funded critical dependencies.

If Tor Project as an organization isn't prepared to propose such a thing directly, then I am happy to, either as Guardian Project or through a partner like Internews who is currently funding our work on pluggable transports and mobile browsers.

All the best, Nathan _______________________________________________ tor-project mailing list tor-project@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-project