It’s no big deal to me because people continuously get it wrong and I shrug it off unless someone’s intentionally being a jerk. I like the idea that we can intuit such things rather than having to declare them, but of course this idea has no basis in reality — I will likely look androgynous forevermore, and people who are non-binary have similar battles.
By ‘biased’ I mean that I both have an opinion on this but also I carry with me the biases present in the trans community c2003, which in some ways were very different than they are now. Which is to say that my opinions don’t speak for everyone and I’m not trying to.
I like having a mini bio that includes one’s pronouns in a natural-sounding way, to emphasize (as Calpernia Addams once put it) “That little thing called a ‘life’ that surrounds our genitals”.
If people are explicitly avoiding using the correct pronouns, that is another issue entirely, and IMO not one that will likely be solved by the People page.
On May 18, 2018, 6:51 PM -0400, Taylor Yu <catalyst@torproject.org>, wrote:
On 05/18/2018 03:39 PM, Griffin wrote:
I find these without context to be very clunky. A brief bio of
"Griffin does xyz and in his spare time plays jazz keytar" flows much
better and better represents the richness of one's life. I'm slightly
biased on this issue as I'm very visibly trans. While people will
naturally make assumptions about my gender/sex (no big deal), some
focus on that particular piece of my life instead of what I'm
actually doing.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. I'm glad it's no big deal for
you when people make assumptions about your gender. I also appreciate
you not wanting people to focus on that aspect of your life.
Are you saying we should refrain altogether from optionally displaying
pronouns on the people page in a standardized way? Or are you expressing
your desire to opt out of displaying your pronouns like that? Or
something else?
I guess I have a different bias. I would find it helpful if we gave
people the option to display their pronouns in a standardized way.
People are unlikely to guess my correct pronouns, unless they're in the
habit of using they/them pronouns by default. Until recently, it was
more likely than not for someone to guess my gender or pronouns in a
direction that would hurt me.
I've found that people who have already made assumptions about someone's
gender are likely to disregard that person's pronouns if those pronouns
are used only in running text, as opposed to being displayed in some
more explicit way. I personally feel more comfortable announcing my
pronouns if other people also announce theirs (which they are free to do
or not as they feel comfortable).
Best regards,
-Taylor
pronouns: they/them