On 05/13/2016 07:53 AM, Matthew Finkel wrote:
As far as we know, the other Tor2Web sites do not log client connections. Compromising on storing and selling user data so you can obtain some money for operating the website goes against users' and our expectations of Tor2web, and Tor's brand. Shutting down your Tor2web sites is the responsible decision if you can't find another way for funding it.
I do not have the time and energy to really contribute to this thread right now, but some data points: At least for onion.to, that is right: We do not collect logs. We host it at two locations; the total costs of running it are less than 30€ per month, which we pay from our own pockets. Which is totally fine. Adding third party trackers or advertising is out of the question. If I did not have a way to sustain it (which, again, is really cheap) I would simply shut it down. Virgil, if you need 30€/month to operate them and it would buy us an ethical and privacy-friendly service, I'm happy to pay you. Mentioning costs here seem to be simply an excuse. You didn't even ask or tried to raise it in donations.
As far as I know, the other tor2web gateways (tor2web.org, blutmagie etc) do not log either.
Also, there seems to be some (deliberate?) commingling between running a tor2web gateway and putting the discovered sites into a sitemap (which we also don't; we do allow search engine indexing of the individual sites though), and actively harvesting onions at HSDirs. There is clearly a difference, it is not the same thing.