On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 5:00 AM, isabela isabela@torproject.org wrote:
We build on the Browser (Tor Browser). We can start by creating a chat client, maybe a chat .onion service one like ricochet.
I think this is a very cool idea. Chat protocols such as ricochet have the problem of growing the network large enough to be useful (the network effect). By building it into Tor Browser you would already have millions of potential users who can communicate with one another.
However, there have been a number of chat clients integrated in browsers (such as Netscape Communicator, Firefox Hello, etc.) but most have eventually been discontinued. It would be good to understand why that is.
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Alison Macrina alison@torproject.org wrote:
Email is used way more than chat.
One type of chat that is extremely popular is mobile messaging (text messages, WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, QQ Mobile, Snapchat etc.) I think a metadata-free mobile messaging app (similar to ricochet) is likely to be much more popular than any desktop chat app. So if we're looking how to transition to a new chat product, I would strongly consider switching to a focus on mobile, regardless of whether it's integrated with the browser.
In general, I would advocate taking a cold, hard look at user numbers, both in terms of our own apps and apps in the same markets (chat, email, etc.). I think we should try to focus on what most users want.