Hi, when sending a mail to this mailinglist, I receive various DMARC reports from different mail providers, both private and big ones like google or mail.ru. This doesn't happen on other mailinglists. Also my mailserver flags mails from this list as spam with makes me think, others might have the same problem. I think it is a problem when rewriting some mail headers. It makes the list a pain to use. Maybe anyone knows how to fix this. I'll append the DMARC report I received from google.
Hi
Your DMARC errors are not a mailing list problem. They are a problem of your own settings as the servers are just doing what *you* told them to do. Sadly your SPF is misconfigured and while your DKIM configuration is correct it includes the typical mistakes of people that don't account for mailing list behaviour.
--- SPF ---
Your SPF-Record (just allowing your own mx, not the list server): "v=spf1 mx ~all"
You send the e-mail to the lists servers and they forward it but your SPF doesn't allow for that you receive an error. There are 2 ways to fix your SPF:
1) You include the list's SPF record into your own like so ("v=spf1 mx include:lists.torproject.org ~all"). This will keep your messages out of the recepient's spam folders.
2) End your SPF with a neutral catch-all. Spam filters do not really make a difference between "~all" and "?all" and probably most of your messages will be marked as spam but DMARC will stop sending error messages as the checks will not fail anymore.
--- DKIM ---
Your DKIM configurations includes the following headers: "from:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:content-type".
Like almost all lists this one also adds a prefix to the headers to allow for simple mail sorting scripts. While almost all DKIM daemons recognize this problem you will still receive a DMARC error as your signature will not verify (probably somthing like "dkim failed [...] looks forwarded [...]").
To fix this you have 2 options as well:
1) You have to exclude the subject from your DKIM signature or it will fail. Some DKIM implementations allow for settings on a per-domain basis so you can just exclude it for the mailing lists you are on.
2) You can exclude lists.torproject.org recipients from DKIM completely so your list messages will not be signed.
Heiko
PS: Please check your competence before acusing others of having none. At least the SPF problem should be detectable by any admin.........
Am 07.01.2018 um 11:55 schrieb Valentin Brandl:
Hi, when sending a mail to this mailinglist, I receive various DMARC reports from different mail providers, both private and big ones like google or mail.ru. This doesn't happen on other mailinglists. Also my mailserver flags mails from this list as spam with makes me think, others might have the same problem. I think it is a problem when rewriting some mail headers. It makes the list a pain to use. Maybe anyone knows how to fix this. I'll append the DMARC report I received from google.
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Понедельник, 8 января 2018, 1:38 +04:00 от Heiko Richter email@heikorichter.name: и вот
Уважаiемый друг я не сомневаюсь в вашей высокой компетенции одновременно в своих низких умственных способностях да я знаю о своих низких способностяхя вступил в группу ради одного не терять связи с TORom и вот настали черные дни ваши высоко интелектуальные советы не помогли я просто их не понемаю поэтому прошу вас не присылать мне письма мое послание считайте заявлением о выходе из группы искренне ваш igor222 Your DMARC errors are not a mailing list problem. They are a problem of your own settings as the servers are just doing what *you* told them to do. Sadly your SPF is misconfigured and while your DKIM configuration is correct it includes the typical mistakes of people that don't account for mailing list behaviour. --- SPF --- Your SPF-Record (just allowing your own mx, not the list server): "v=spf1 mx ~all" You send the e-mail to the lists servers and they forward it but your SPF doesn't allow for that you receive an error. There are 2 ways to fix your SPF:
- You include the list's SPF record into your own like so ("v=spf1 mx include:lists.torproject.org ~all"). This will keep your messages out of the recepient's spam folders.
- End your SPF with a neutral catch-all. Spam filters do not really make a difference between "~all" and "?all" and probably most of your messages will be marked as spam but DMARC will stop sending error messages as the checks will not fail anymore.
--- DKIM --- Your DKIM configurations includes the following headers: "from:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:content-type". Like almost all lists this one also adds a prefix to the headers to allow for simple mail sorting scripts. While almost all DKIM daemons recognize this problem you will still receive a DMARC error as your signature will not verify (probably somthing like "dkim failed [...] looks forwarded [...]"). To fix this you have 2 options as well:
- You have to exclude the subject from your DKIM signature or it will fail. Some DKIM implementations allow for settings on a per-domain basis so you can just exclude it for the mailing lists you are on.
- You can exclude lists.torproject.org recipients from DKIM completely so your list messages will not be signed.
Heiko PS: Please check your competence before acusing others of having none. At least the SPF problem should be detectable by any admin.........
Am 07.01.2018 um 11:55 schrieb Valentin Brandl:
Hi, when sending a mail to this mailinglist, I receive various DMARC reports from different mail providers, both private and big ones like google or mail.ru. This doesn't happen on other mailinglists. Also my mailserver flags mails from this list as spam with makes me think, others might have the same problem. I think it is a problem when rewriting some mail headers. It makes the list a pain to use. Maybe anyone knows how to fix this. I'll append the DMARC report I received from google.
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