<p dir="ltr">I appreciate the suggestion for split testing, but we can't implement it in a privacy-preserving way. I see three main issues:<br>
1. It requires logging a lot of data on users. Even if we could find a split testing that didn't log IPs, it still would log far more than we're comfortable with. <br>
2. The user is connecting to an external server which we likely have no control over. Is it serving malicious JS to certain countries or covertly changing download links to malicious versions of Tor? We don't know.<br>
3. I don't think we should be implementing external code in a website like this. Imagine if Turkey (which has been discussed previously) spoofed the certificate for the split testing service or changed the IP it resolved to. It would have free rein over the entire site. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Split testing is always good, but in this case it doesn't seem to be an option. </p>
<div class="gmail_quot<blockquote class=" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">As a starter basic page its pretty nice and simple.<div>very nice job</div><div><br><div>it breaks all the rules for a converting landing page but this can be worked on later on.</div>
<div><br></div><div>better to start simple like it is and then improve through split testing.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 31 March 2014 08:57, Moritz Süß <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:moritz@moritzsuess.de" target="_blank">moritz@moritzsuess.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Looks great! Simple enough for the common user, with all options available for advanced users.<div>
<br></div><div>Regarding the donate button I’d opt for a separate button, which is more visibly distinguished. We want it to be noticed as much as possible, while keeping the design consistent.<br><div><br></div><div><div>
<div>Am 31 Mar 2014 um 01:33 schrieb William Papper <<a href="mailto:william@papper.me" target="_blank">william@papper.me</a>>:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">The download site is nearly finished. The most current version can be accessed here: <a href="http://wpapper.github.io/tor-download-web/" target="_blank">http://wpapper.github.io/tor-download-web/</a><div>
<br></div><div>All that's left to implement is changing the URL of the download button when a dropdown is changed (which is implemented, but buggy) and the non-JS fallback (which should be very straightforward).</div>
<div><br></div><div>Does anyone have any more feedback at this point? Styling still needs to be figured out, particularly the background color.</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:35 PM, William Papper <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:william@papper.me" target="_blank">william@papper.me</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Ah, I apologize. Now I see what you're saying.<div><br></div><div>I was referring to the latest version of the website in the GitHub repo. Here's a screenshot of the page:</div>
<div><br></div></div><div><span><Screen Shot 2014-03-29 at 9.31.08 PM.png></span><br>
</div><div><div><br></div><div>Does that seem good? Or should the donate button be separate?</div></div></div><div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Andrew Lewman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew@torproject.is" target="_blank">andrew@torproject.is</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 08:11:24PM -0400, <a href="mailto:william@papper.me" target="_blank">william@papper.me</a> wrote 2.6K bytes in 0 lines about:<br>
: That's my answer, then.<br>
<br>
Actually, what I meant is where do I see the mockup or image or to<br>
whatever you referred?<br>
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--<br>
Andrew<br>
pgp 0x6B4D6475<br>
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