<div dir="ltr">Hi everyone, here's what was on the pad: <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:monospace;font-size:12px">   </span><div id="gmail-magicdomid8" class="gmail-" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12px;font-family:monospace"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">                                    </span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1996" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">Document that sparked the discussion; The document proposes changes to the Tor Browser toolbar: </span><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv gmail-url" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"><a href="https://share.riseup.net/#a147BiCUXfeCQ3ezzgFkag" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;white-space:pre-wrap">https://share.riseup.net/#a147BiCUXfeCQ3ezzgFkag</a></span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1702" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><br style="margin:0px;padding:0px"></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1721" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">Proposed changes: </span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1863" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">place security slider in the toolbar </span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1878" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z81z3xstz67ztjvl3e0boz65z gmail-s" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"><s style="margin:0px;padding:0px">circuit display/control in the toolbar</s></span><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> (I think the buttons should all be functional and not mix informational buttons) </span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1865" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">place no script icon in preferences, not toolbar</span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1866" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv gmail-s" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"><s style="margin:0px;padding:0px">move network settings configuration into preferences</s></span><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> (I think this is a bad idea, this should be easier to access)</span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1867" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv gmail-s" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"><s style="margin:0px;padding:0px">change the onion icon into a "tor learning center" </s></span><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">(although I think we do need to educate users, just changing the use case of a very important button makes me nervous)  </span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid602" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><br style="margin:0px;padding:0px"></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid617" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">Discussion points: </span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1593" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">    what should we put in the tool bar vs in the preferences?</span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1594" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet2" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">division: tab specific settings in toolbar, global settings in preferences</span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1595" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet2" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">division: most used things in toolbar, less used things in preferences</span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1596" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">how many buttons should be on the tool bar? in what order? </span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1597" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet2" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">I think 2-3 buttons max</span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1598" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet2" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">order from left (farthest away from center) as least important, most right as most important (because it's most convenient to click things closer to the center) </span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1599" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet2" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">the buttons in the toolbar should be functional, rather than informational</span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1600" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">What do people use often and not? </span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1601" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet2" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">no script icon: we don't want people to use it a lot, but unknown how much they do </span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid1604" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><br style="margin:0px;padding:0px"></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid2903" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">Tickets to make (and who should make it); use #tbb-usability and #ux-team: </span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid3861" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">how we should decide what to put in toolbar (Linda) </span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid3862" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">what we should put in the toolbar (Linda)</span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid3863" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">what order we should place it in the toolbar (Linda) </span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid3864" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">getting the right icons for the buttons (Linda) </span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid3865" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z79zz66zwz80zz71zz85zz72zz82zz81zz88zz80ziroud" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">where exactly is the best place for the buttons, or the worst place (e.g. the (i) one which nobody notice) (Samdney)</span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid3866" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z81z3xstz67ztjvl3e0boz65z" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">an "adjust security" button/drop-down could incorporate NoScript menu functionality</span><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> (Arthur)</span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid3867" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z81z3xstz67ztjvl3e0boz65z" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">Change "medium security" so that video is click-to-play under http but not https</span><span class="gmail-author-a-z75zz69zdz87za1uz74zuz67zuz74zxz83zxv" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> (Arthur)</span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid3868" class="gmail-ace-line" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z81z3xstz67ztjvl3e0boz65z" style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">Indicate security slider is global (Arthur)</span></li></ul></div><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><p><span style="font-family:Pristina;font-size:18pt;line-height:27.6px">  Linda N. Lee</span></p></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><div><span style="font-size:10.8333px;border-collapse:collapse">Current Key: <a href="https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=lindanaeunlee" target="_blank">https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=lindanaeunlee</a> </span></div><div><span style="font-size:10.8333px;border-collapse:collapse">GPG Fingerprint: FA0A C9BE 2881 B347 9F4F C0D7 BE70 F826 5ED2 8FA2</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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