would using bridges prevent the ISP from knowing that a person is using tor?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 1:04 AM,  <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:andrew@torproject.org">andrew@torproject.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:23:41PM +0100, <a href="mailto:pumpkin@cotse.net">pumpkin@cotse.net</a> wrote 1.4K bytes in 42 lines about:<br>


: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/30/pakistan-bans-encryption-software" target="_blank">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/30/pakistan-bans-encryption-software</a><br>
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I talked to someone from the pakistani government about this encryption<br>
ban early this spring.  They were concerned that this law would be far<br>
too broad and demolish whatever nascent e-commerce and online banking<br>
markets that had started in the country.  They were also concerned that<br>
too many people in the government didn&#39;t understand the difference<br>
between a VPN and HTTPS.<br>
<br>
This person talked to American counter-terrorism people and found that<br>
actual terrorists were not using VPNs nor HTTPS at all. They stating<br>
right out in the open, from their registered DSL lines, their plans,<br>
where they lived, and what they were planning to do on various online<br>
chat network and forums.<br>
<br>
While technically, yes this law does make anything that uses encryption<br>
on the Internet in pakistan illegal, it was primarily aimed at the<br>
various VPN providers run by known criminal organizations. Tor, HTTPS<br>
Everywhere, and other tools are now illegal. Whether someone is actually<br>
prosecuted for using such tools in country remains to be seen.<br>
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Andrew<br>
pgp key: 0x74ED336B<br>
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