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From: Joe Btfsplk <joebtfsplk@gmx.com><br>
To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org<br>
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2011 6:52 am<br>
Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Why the US Government funds circumvention projects (Like Tor)<br>
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<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff; MARGIN: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; COLOR: #000; FONT-SIZE: 12px"><<A href="mailto:CLindsey@GarudaLLC.com">CLindsey@GarudaLLC.com</A>> wrote: <br>
>> Hi, <br>
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>> I light of the recent discussions regarding governments funding projects <br>
>> like Tor, I thought this article might be of interest. <br>
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>> U.S. develops "panic button" for democracy activists <br>
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>> Full article: <br>
>> <A href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/25/us-rights-usa-technology-idUSTRE7206DH20110325" target=_blank>http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/25/us-rights-usa-technology-idUSTRE7206DH20110325</A> <br>
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> Now at <br>
> <A href="http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2527265620110325" target=_blank>http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2527265620110325</A> <br>
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That's great. At the same time many govts allow mobile providers to track users, even by longitude / latitude. <A href="http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/NY-Times-Realizes-Wireless-Carriers-Track-You-113416" target=_blank>http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/NY-Times-Realizes-Wireless-Carriers-Track-You-113416</A> <br>
If mobile providers have the technology or are allowed to, so can govts. <br>
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I sleep better at night just knowing (any) govt has its (& other countries') citizens' best interests at heart. (little sarcasm). A govt's word is as good as gold - they've never lied (from beginning of recorded history), have they? <br>
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I am a little concerned though, about the US violating the constitution in numerous ways to spy on citizens in numerous ways. (remember the congressional hearings on telephone & internet?) If you want to know what (any) govt's up to, have to go elsewhere & dig deep for news & insight, not depend on info from the govt(s), nightly news or newspapers. Don't ask the fox guarding the hen house how things are. Something is only a conspiracy theory when no facts, evidence (or sometimes even common sense about it) exist. </div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff; MARGIN: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; COLOR: #000; FONT-SIZE: 12px"><FONT size=2></FONT>don't <FONT size=2>know if anyone remembers about, oh, I don't know, about 1-3? years ago the U.S. government and U.S. military admitted that the U.S. military had been used to spy domestically on U.S. citizens. That, is specifically prohibited by Federal law, law the Feds break. They, your government, should never be trusted, ever.</FONT></div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Tahoma>It is time to disband the gangs of the government and all American institutions that are broke (they can't be fixed), that don't solve problems (none of them do) an</FONT><FONT face=Tahoma>d stop using the same ole, broken, impractical and unusable tools we have or have been given or allowed to use, that to this very day, have not, do not and will not fix the problems WE, the people have.</FONT></div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Tahoma>Yet that is the box most willingly stay in, think in, believe in and speak in.</FONT></div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Tahoma>If it doesn't solve the problems we need solved, then it is irrelevant to our lives and needs to be discarded with something that works, in its place. That is usually, people: us/US</FONT></div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Tahoma>Things are always left to us/US to take care of and WE do, so take a look around you and be honest to yourself.</FONT></div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Tahoma>Sorry for the rant but that's all there seems to be. No action being taken in other words, or are 'ya gonna vote! That doesn't work and hasn't for a long time.</FONT></div>
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