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From: grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com><br>
To: or-talk@freehaven.net<br>
Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:52 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [OT] Republicons resume attacks on privacy<br>
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<pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt>> The Republicants are back to pushing data retention legislation. :-(<br>
> <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html" target="_blank">http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html</a><br>
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<a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9206379/DOJ_seeks_mandatory_data_retention_requirement_for_ISPs" target="_blank">http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9206379/DOJ_seeks_mandatory_data_retention_requirement_for_ISPs</a><br>
<a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/01/26/0418200/DOJ-Seeks-Mandatory-Data-Retention-For-ISPs" target="_blank">http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/01/26/0418200/DOJ-Seeks-Mandatory-Data-Retention-For-ISPs</a><br>
<a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/01/27/0320209/Swedish-ISPs-To-Thwart-EU-Data-Retention-Law" target="_blank">http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/01/27/0320209/Swedish-ISPs-To-Thwart-EU-Data-Retention-Law</a><br>
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Yeah. And two years is ridiculous. Back in the days of source spoofing,<br>
internet miscreants were tracked for fun through multiple providers and<br>
countries, it took just a few hours if the right people were awake.<br>
Everyone had some form of authentication or location data. And pretty<br>
much everyone kept it for about a month.<br>
The data and subpoenas are there for any real 'exigent' purpose,<br>
primarily because providers need it for their own internal business<br>
purposes. LEO's just need to get off their duff, and if it's such small<br>
potatoes that they don't, well then, by definition, who cares.<br>
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> I'd rather twist this into free promotion for TOR instead of hoping that<br>
> some random goverment will /not/ do something like this.<br>
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I'd rather people keep writing congresscritters to keep it from happening,<br>
for all the good reasons discussed elsewhere on the net.<br>
Passage of such a law will promote anonymity networks in its own right.<br>
While you're giving in, might as write the draft for them that bans<br>
anonymity networks, because that will be next.<br>
<br>
Torproject did a nice job with their new look and the tor users<br>
page. And I know it's politically incorrect for them and hazardous<br>
to the project, but in addition to mentioning China all over the<br>
site as if it's the only twisted place in the world, the US, EU, etc<br>
should get some lip service too by adding another section for normal<br>
people that says 'irresponsible governments'...<br>
"They protect their communications from irresponsible corporations."<br>
<br>
Hollow: (intended)<br>
In case anyone has forgotten, legislation was passed nearly eliminating the restrictions on cor-perps from spending as much<br>
as they wish on political candidates. So, your Congresscritters will soon be (they already have been for decades), the Senator<br>
from IBM, DOW, etc. They "no longer" represent you, the citizen. Writing them is like voting. It doesn't work in case you have <br>
forgotten the 2000 Pez-dispenser election.<br>
<br>
It really isn't Republicons or Republicants. OR the Demons from the other party. It's really AmeriCANTS. The only ones really taking any action,<br>
who are motivated to take action, are those "taking AmeriCANTS actions away!" Most AmeriCANTS are doing nothing but talking or not talking.<br>
<br>
Real action is what is needed and that isn't by trying to find new ways and places to hide. Those are running out. Running faster is going<br>
nowhere also. Running further is coming to the end. In 2001, I believe they shut the internet down<br>
completely in Germany, so Tor wouldn't work anyway. What would is fighting back. Each and every day, in any way <br>
each person can find. Find something 'they' can do! Later is too late.<br>
<br>
Oh, sorry, this is about Tor. Shucks.<br>
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