Hello Scott,<br><br>Isn't there any way to detect automatically if these 28 relays in same family? Why do you need configure your torrc file manually? <br><br>Thanks in advance.<br>ilter<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Scott Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bennett@cs.niu.edu">bennett@cs.niu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Sun, 16 May 2010 07:08:53 +0200 Paolo Palmieri <<a href="mailto:palmaway@gmx.it">palmaway@gmx.it</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<div class="im">>> There is someone going by the name of <a href="http://perfect-privacy.com" target="_blank">perfect-privacy.com</a> who is<br>
>> listed in the contact information of roughly 28 relays' descriptors with<br>
>> widely varying throughput capacities in the tor directory. These relays'<br>
>> descriptors are grouped into quite a few separate Family specifications,<br>
>> although some appear to be orphans without a Family.<br>
><br>
>>From a quick look at Tor status, it seems to me that they are grouped<br>
>into families based on their geographical location.<br>
<br>
</div> That is true for some of them, but there are also some that are not<br>
in any Family at all. In any case, they all should be in a single Family.<br>
<div class="im">><br>
>> I would appreciate having these relays lose their "Valid" flags in<br>
>> the consensus until such time as their operator(s) group all of them<br>
>> into a single Family specification. I hope the authority operators<br>
>> will take this action in a timely fashion. Until this situation is<br>
>> dealt with, it will remain entirely possible that clients may build<br>
>> circuits whose entire routes consist of <a href="http://perfect-privacy.com" target="_blank">perfect-privacy.com</a>'s nodes.<br>
><br>
>While some of them appear to be guards, none is running as an exit node,<br>
>so this should not be possible.<br>
><br>
</div> Thanks for pointing that out, Paolo. I had missed that. However,<br>
it should not be possible to get more than one of them in any given circuit<br>
route, but because they are not grouped into a single Family, a circuit<br>
could consist of all nodes except the exit node being <a href="http://perfect-privacy.com" target="_blank">perfect-privacy.com</a>'s<br>
nodes.<br>
I note that at present nothing has been done about the bad situation<br>
by either <a href="http://perfect-privacy.com" target="_blank">perfect-privacy.com</a> or by the directory authority operators, nor<br>
have I yet received any response to my email message to the address in the<br>
contact info for these nodes.<br>
The tor man page gives a not very edifying description of the NodeFamily<br>
statement. The man page says that the NodeFamily statement may be used more<br>
than once in a given torrc file. Does each use define a different Family?<br>
Or do all nodes listed in NodeFamily statements get lumped into a single<br>
Family? What effect does the NodeFamily statement have upon the use of nodes<br>
whose descriptors already contain some Family information? I intend to add<br>
one or more NodeFamily lines to my torrc very shortly, but need to know<br>
whether a) I have to include all of the nodes in a single, very long run-on<br>
NodeFamily statement, and b) listing all of <a href="http://perfect-privacy.com" target="_blank">perfect-privacy.com</a>'s nodes now<br>
would mean that encountering similar situations with nodes belong to someone<br>
else would require grouping them with <a href="http://perfect-privacy.com" target="_blank">perfect-privacy.com</a>'s nodes. Thanks<br>
in advance for any answers to these questions!<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG<br>
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