<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Could it be argued that someone participating in a peer-to-peer file sharing system is also donating their services? Thus, those in Germany who would retain their data in order to make a case against copyright infringers would be breaking German law. Any thoughts?<br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Sven Anderson <sven@anderson.de><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> or-talk@freehaven.net<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, November 24, 2008 10:25:08 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> No data
retention in germany for donated services<br></font><br>
Hi,<br><br>Karsten N. just sent to the German exitnodes list a link to an article, which is very convincing and legally well-founded (see below). It explains that any service that is being donated to the public, that is, without taking money or any other return service (like advertisements) for it, is _not_ obliged to retain any connection data! Furthermore, since there is no gray area, who isn't obliged to retain data is not _allowed_ to retain data, and can be charged with a fee up to 10.000 EUR for doing so! Since Tor is without doubts such a donated service, this turns the tables, and it is clearly a risk for a Tor operator in Germany to retain any data. (You would have to proof that you're financing your Tor node by a return service of the users and therefore are obliged to retain connection data. ;-) )<br><br>Thanks for that link, Karsten!<br><br><br>Best regards,<br><br>Sven<br><br><br>Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail:<br><br>> Von: "Karsten
N." <<a ymailto="mailto:tor-admin@privacyfoundation.de" href="mailto:tor-admin@privacyfoundation.de">tor-admin@privacyfoundation.de</a>><br>> Datum: 24. November 2008 10:26:02 MEZ<br>> An: <a ymailto="mailto:exitnodes@lists.ccc.de" href="mailto:exitnodes@lists.ccc.de">exitnodes@lists.ccc.de</a><br>> Betreff: keine VDS für unentgeltliche Dienste<br>> <br>> Hallo Tor-Admin,<br>> <br>> bei <a target="_blank" href="http://datenspeicherung.de">datenspeicherung.de</a> gibt es einen interessanten Aufsatz zu<br>> Speicherpflichten aus §113a TKG (VDS).<br>> <br>> <a href="http://www.daten-speicherung.de/index.php/keine-vorratsdatenspeicherung-fuer-unentgeltliche-dienste/" target="_blank">http://www.daten-speicherung.de/index.php/keine-vorratsdatenspeicherung-fuer-unentgeltliche-dienste/</a><br>> <br>> Demnach dürfen Tor-Nodes (ausdrücklich erwähnt!) *keine* Daten speichern.<br>> <br>> Karsten N.<br>>
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