<div dir="ltr">This has nothing to do with Tor. Wrong mailing list dude.<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Roy Lanek <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lanek@novenine.com">lanek@novenine.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">> What kind of nonsense.<br>
<br>
Not so much ... I wonder: are you fishing perhaps? This is Tempo Online<br>
translated in English. There quite likely can be a *salad* ... quantitatively<br>
speaking. (Reading the article is also--agreed--not always clear to understand<br>
what is peculiar to Indonesia vs. what is general; moreover, Indonesia is<br>
going to introduce a *great firewall* next year ...)<br>
<br>
But qualitatively, they may not be that wrong.<br>
<br>
I ignore how the business goes, but I remember to have read in Singapore of<br>
astronomical *NETTO* sums made a month by pimps [in Singapore].<br>
<br>
4.2 million sites make less than 1 USD a second per site. I don't know how<br>
many hits *successful* sites have and how the *administration* goes in the<br>
*branch*.<br>
<br>
There are to pay: hosting, ==HEAVY== *commissions* on the left and on the<br>
right for sure [Indonesia is the country with the largest Muslim population<br>
in the world: you could drink Whiskey and Vodka and be *entertained* even<br>
in Aceh too--paying of course]: protection from the police, politicians,<br>
malavitosi, *insurances*, indemnifications for the ISPs etc. And so on ...<br>
Internet-expenses-in-general inclusive [in Indonesia there are generalized<br>
power outages daily since months ... up to 7-8-9-10 hours of blackout 7/24].<br>
<br>
I guess that the *material* shown will be specialized ... meaning that it will<br>
be *Asian* [and made in Asia, not in the Netherlands, U.S. or Switzerland],<br>
not Russian nor Nordic. That will have a price too. They will then need some<br>
certificates, or cellular phone infrastructure, for doing *business*--I would<br>
include the latter too, the business extra [there are enough *bapak* in<br>
Indonesia, a country of perhaps 230+ million, with MUCH more money to spend<br>
than you have: Singapore's #1 foreign flat owners are Indonesian, I believe,<br>
ethnic Chinese ones inclusive of course] in the balance.<br>
<br>
I would add the *amortization* of the hardware--desktops, notebooks,<br>
whatever--and of the time wasted by the "consumers."<br>
<br>
3000, 300 ... even 30 USD/s [or who knows, 3 million a day] would still be<br>
significant.<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
> 1 s 3.075.000 $<br>
> 60 s 184.500.000 $<br>
> 1 h <a href="http://11.070.000.000" target="_blank">11.070.000.000</a> $ (11 mrd $ per hour!!!)<br>
> 24 h 265.680.000.000 $ ( 265 mrd $ per day)<br>
> 1 month 7,9704 x 10^12 $<br>
<br>
</div>Could it be world-, or continent wide? ... but it makes even limited<br>
difference, eventually; you are missing the point: to be, say, "drown, hanged<br>
and quartered" [I am quoting a movie based a popular book] makes little<br>
difference after stage one of the series has been carried out.<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
> If that country were so rich I would live there for 15 years now. My wife is<br>
> indonesian and I know how poor that country is. They NEVER were able to spend<br>
> just a small part of that money. Another fact is that education there is<br>
> incredibly bad and lots of people are stupid in a way noone can imagine. I<br>
> think this is the reason why such nonsense finds it way into indo newspapers.<br>
<br>
</div>And *uncertainty [Heisenberg] principle* verified ... *interesting* in a<br>
sense! For a couple of correct observations you have made you have written<br>
some compensatory idiocies on a country which you clearly do not know.<br>
<br>
/Roy Lanek<br>
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