Eugen,, That sounds like some good news coming from EU! I hope for success to challenges in Germany to their attempt at repressive law. I am in US.<br>As everyone knows, we seem to lead the world in this kind of stuff. I think the whole censorship and control mindset seems to have come into office and vogue in January, 2001, or soon thereafter. I have always had the impression that European attitudes were a bit more sophisticated and insightful than here. I will keep a close eye on events as they transpire here.<br> I think that Tor is a great example of the international expression of the need for, and value of, freedom in a world that seems to be becoming ever more controlled and devoid of originality.<br> Algenon<br><br><b><i>Georg
Sluyterman <georg@thecrew.dk></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Eugen Leitl wrote:<br>> Data retention law has just been passed in Germany. Here's the list<br>> of who voted how <br>> <br>> http://www.bundestag.de/parlament/plenargeschehen/abstimmung/20071109_teleueberwach.pdf<br>> <br>> This will be contested as unconstitutional, but in cases it<br>> will become law all Tor operators are required by law to start <br>> logging 20090101. Similiar applies to the entire EU, but the<br>> dates and details might differ.<br>> <br><br>The details indeed does differ :-)<br><br>In Denmark, the implementation of the EU-directive (which is called<br>'logningsbekendtgørelsen') is not bad news for Tor-operators.<br><br>If you have a Tor-server in Denmark, you don't have to log *anything*!<br>I have this in writing (from something called IT- og
Telestyrelsen), if<br>anybody is interested.<br><br>Regarding to the danish 'version' of Vorratsdatenspeicherung<br>('logningsbekendtgørelsen'), you only have to log data, that you /know/.<br>That means, if you eg. have an open access point, then normally you do<br>not know which physical persons have a specific IP-address, and<br>therefore you do not have to log that.<br>If you are non-commercial (eg. Tor-operaters normally are), then you do<br>not have to log *anything*. That means a private open access point does<br>not have to be register anything.<br><br>So if you want to host a Tor-server somewhere in Denmark, feel free to<br>contact me by e-mail if i can be at any help.<br><br>-- <br>Regards<br>Georg Sluyterman<br></blockquote><br><p> 
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