<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Secret rendezvous addresses for tor dir servers aren't necessary. In China, for example, all network traffic goes through government-owned firewalls and routers, just like the traffic at your workplace goes through company-owned routers and firewalls. The traffic can be sniffed and logged without blocking it. That way they know who's using tor. It's probably valuable to know who's trying to be a dissedent and what it is they think they're discussing privately.<br><br>As for a protocol to keep that hidden, SSL comes to mind. Personally, though, I don't believe you can ever be truly anonymous or secret, so I act accordingly.<br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Arrakistor
<arrakistor@gmail.com><br>To: "eric.jung@yahoo.com" <or-talk@freehaven.net><br>Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 7:00:26 PM<br>Subject: Re[2]: Can governments block tor?<br><br><div>Is there a protocol to keep that hidden? I have a hard time imagining<br>secret rendezvous addresses for dir servers for tor, without actually<br>using tor.<br><br>Regards,<br> Arrakistor<br><br>Saturday, August 12, 2006, 4:46:33 PM, you wrote:<br><br>> Isn't it more likely that rather than blocking it, they monitor<br>> who uses it (i.e., who connects to entry points?)<br><br><br>> ----- Original Message ----<br>> From: Nick Mathewson <nickm@freehaven.net><br>> To: or-talk@freehaven.net<br>> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 5:20:31 PM<br>> Subject: Re: Can governments block tor?<br><br>> On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 03:15:39PM -0500, Arrakistor wrote:<br>>> <br>>>
I am sure this has been answered before, but my email logs are<br>>> destroyed.<br>>> <br>>> Can a government find out what IP addresses that tor originally<br>>> connects to in order to get directory information?<br><br>> Currently, yes, if the government employs anybody who knows how to<br>> download Tor and read C. I would imagine that most governments do.<br><br>> We're working on this.<br><br>> rtfm'ly yrs,<br><br></div></div><br></div></div></body></html>