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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Again it is very unlikely. There are many options
to get the keys - like forcing you to divulge them or wire tapping your
keyboard.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If such a backdoor was included than it
would likely be spotted. Here are some comments on a similar accusation a few
years ago: http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9909/13/backdoor.idg/<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
owner-or-talk@freehaven.net [mailto:owner-or-talk@freehaven.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ringo Kamens<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 14 May 2006 18:43<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> or-talk@freehaven.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Some legal trouble
with TOR in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">France</st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I'm not saying the AES is
weak. I'm saying that Microsoft might have implemented a back-door for
governments. They could store the private keys and passwords in videocard
memory or in the boot sector or something like that. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 5/14/06, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Tony</span></b>
<<a href="mailto:Tony@tdrmail.co.uk">Tony@tdrmail.co.uk</a>> wrote:</span></font></span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>2. The restrictions on encryption were removed some years
ago. The best encryption software comes from outside the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region> anyway so
it was always a pointless exercise in futility. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Unless a vulnerability is found in 256 bit AES it would take
them longer than the ages of the universe to crack a key by brute force no
matter how many terraflops of power they have to task on your key (not to
mention the many others they might want to crack) </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>3. Filtering content is not quite the same as signing code
and pretending it comes from Microsoft. Such a piece of code would have a
changed checksum would likely be spotted and then analysed. I can't see
Microsoft doing that unless required by law. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>4. TPM is part of the trusted computing concept. It just
makes it much harder. Not impossible.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:owner-or-talk@freehaven.net" target="_blank">owner-or-talk@freehaven.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-or-talk@freehaven.net" target="_blank">owner-or-talk@freehaven.net</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ringo Kamens<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 14 May 2006 18:31</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span class=q><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:or-talk@freehaven.net" target="_blank">or-talk@freehaven.net</a></span><br>
<span class=q><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Some
legal trouble with TOR in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">France</st1:place></st1:country-region></span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>There are
a few key points that you are overlooking.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>1. In
support of the photocopying money scandal, most printers have yellow dots
imprinted on them that track date printed, serial number, etc. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>2. By <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> export law,
US companies are not allowed to export encryption larger than 56 bit (although
it might have jumped to 128 a few years ago), unless it has been <strong><b><font
face="Times New Roman">certified by the government. </font></b></strong>That
means unless it has a backdoor. Plus, governments have thousands of teraflops
of idle computer cycles waiting to crack your keys. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>3. How can
you honestly think Microsoft wouldn't bend over for the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> government.
They bent over for <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">China</st1:place></st1:country-region>.
Look at PGP. They moved to closed source after version 6.0 with no valid
reason. The reason is probably the government. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>4. In
terms of using checksums to ensure your system hasn't been tampered with, the
computer hardware could have a defense system against that such as trusted
computing. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Ringo
Kamens<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On
5/14/06, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Mike Zanker</span></b> <<a
href="mailto:mike@zanker.org" target="_blank"> mike@zanker.org</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On
14/5/06 15:10, Tony wrote:<br>
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> <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Nb-</st1:place></st1:State>
failure to disclose keys is up to two years in prison. Not 10. <br>
><br>
> (5) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable- <br>
><br>
> (a) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term
not<br>
> exceeding two years or to a fine, or to both; <br>
> (b) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not
exceeding<br>
> six months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum, or to both. <br>
<br>
Furthermore, that's part III of RIPA which hasn't been enacted yet. <br>
<br>
Mike.<br>
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