<html><head></head><body><div class="ydp96098648yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><span style="color: rgb(38, 40, 42); font-size: 13px;">On Saturday, July 6, 2024, 11:13:53 PM MDT, Alessandro Greco via tor-relays <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org> wrote:</span><br></div><div id="ydp96098648yahoo_quoted_0431748229" class="ydp96098648yahoo_quoted"><div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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<div><div id="ydp96098648yiv7937502663"> <div><div>>> … <span style="display:inline !important;float:none;">bank, news, etc as these entities often block Tor relays</span><span class="ydp96098648yiv7937502663Apple-converted-space"> …</span></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>> Even if it is a middle node?</div><div><br></div><div>Yes... Even if it's a Middle Relay.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>> Why would they do that?</div></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><span>They are either ignorant, indifferent, or malicious to the purposes of a Middle Relay and block any known Tor relays.</span><br></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>There are ways around the issue using a VPN, Reverse Proxy, etc, but I found that running bridges on a home network is more suitable.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Good luck in whichever path you decide to pursue.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Respectfully,</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Gary</span></div><div><span><br></span></div> <div id="ydp96098648yiv7937502663protonmail_mobile_signature_block"><div><br clear="none"></div></div>Il dom, lug 7, 2024 alle 00:14, Gary C. New via tor-relays <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:Il dom, lug 7, 2024 alle 00:14, Gary C. New via tor-relays <<a href=" class="ydp96098648yiv7937502663" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tor-relays@lists.torproject.org</a>> ha scritto:<blockquote type="cite" class="ydp96098648yiv7937502663protonmail_quote"> <div id="ydp96098648yiv7937502663yqt93862" class="ydp96098648yiv7937502663yqt7211755710"><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class="ydp96098648yiv7937502663ydp746fbac7yahoo-style-wrap"><div><div>Alessandro,<br clear="none"></div></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I would recommend running bridges (opposed to relays) on a home network to avoid browing issues with your bank, news, etc as these entities often block Tor relays and not bridges.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Respectfully,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Gary</div>
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On Saturday, July 6, 2024, 3:07:52 PM MDT, Roger Dingledine <arma@torproject.org> wrote:
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<div>On Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 06:34:37PM +0000, Alessandro Greco via tor-relays wrote:<br clear="none">> I have some experience running a Tor relay, and I am now interested in setting up another one. I plan to do this using my home internet connection, which is an FTTH line with bandwidth up to 2 Gbps.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Thanks for running a relay!<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> I have read that it is possible to run multiple relays on the same node, but I am unsure how to configure this.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">If you're using the tor deb (e.g. on Debian or Ubuntu), it comes with<br clear="none">a tool to set up multiple tors. "man tor-instance-create" to get started.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">There is also the possibility of using the fancy automated<br clear="none">deployment tools that some of the bigger relay operators here<br clear="none">use, which probably only makes sense if you are already familiar<br clear="none">with these automation tools (a popular one based on ansible:<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://github.com/nusenu/ansible-relayor" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://github.com/nusenu/ansible-relayor</a> ).<br clear="none"><br clear="none">In either case, make sure you have enough memory in your system to<br clear="none">handle each Tor relay: relays can use 1 or 2 gigabytes of memory each<br clear="none">during normal operation, but when the network is under load it can go<br clear="none">much higher than that.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> Additionally, I am curious about what would be most beneficial for the Tor network today: a highly resilient bridge or multiple relays managed from the same node?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">If you have the bandwidth (which it sounds like you do), the multiple<br clear="none">fast relays will be much more useful to the network.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">See also <a shape="rect" href="https://2019.www.torproject.org/docs/faq#RelayOrBridge" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://2019.www.torproject.org/docs/faq#RelayOrBridge</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">> Is it feasible to operate both at the same time? This is probably not the best idea since the bridge's IP address would be public, right?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">It is technically possible yes, but as you say, having a public relay<br clear="none">on the IP address will undermine the effectiveness of your bridge on<br clear="none">that IP address.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The same logic is also why we don't recommend running two different<br clear="none">kinds of bridges on a single IP address: if one of them gets discovered<br clear="none">and the censor blocks by IP address, then the other will stop working too.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> I am looking for guidance on the best course of action to support the Tor community.<br clear="none">> Thank you in advance for your assistance,Aleff.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Thanks for wanting to help!<br clear="none"><br clear="none">--Roger<div id="ydp96098648yiv7937502663ydp746fbac7yqtfd27034" class="ydp96098648yiv7937502663ydp746fbac7yqt5530981271"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">tor-relays mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:tor-relays@lists.torproject.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tor-relays@lists.torproject.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays</a><br clear="none"></div></div>
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